EFB suggestions for newbie pilot?
Perhaps my only advice concerning moving to an EFB, would be to make sure you have some sort of backup. Whether that’s another iPad, or paper charts etc., but it would be irresponsible to depart with one method of navigation that is functional only with battery power or software.
Unless it’s a bloody big phone screen, I wouldn’t consider your iPhone a suitable backup either.
Unless it’s a bloody big phone screen, I wouldn’t consider your iPhone a suitable backup either.
Perhaps my only advice concerning moving to an EFB, would be to make sure you have some sort of backup. Whether that’s another iPad, or paper charts etc., but it would be irresponsible to depart with one method of navigation that is functional only with battery power or software.
Unless it’s a bloody big phone screen, I wouldn’t consider your iPhone a suitable backup either.
Unless it’s a bloody big phone screen, I wouldn’t consider your iPhone a suitable backup either.
I probably use my phone as often as my iPad for OZR.
and it’s not even a big one. Its perfectly fine for a backup and you can use it with one hand too!
Tip for Android phone users: "TrackDirect" is an awesome, simple, free and seriously underrated app for getting weather briefings, charts, etc straight from NAIPS!! Look it up on Google Play. It isn't available on iPhone though (bad luck, I say) and is something I use on my phone more than either EFB app.
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Perhaps my only advice concerning moving to an EFB, would be to make sure you have some sort of backup. Whether that’s another iPad, or paper charts etc., but it would be irresponsible to depart with one method of navigation that is functional only with battery power or software.
Unless it’s a bloody big phone screen, I wouldn’t consider your iPhone a suitable backup either.
Unless it’s a bloody big phone screen, I wouldn’t consider your iPhone a suitable backup either.
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Don't listen to the naysayers, get familair with an efb (it IS the future/present) and ditch the pencil and paper altogether once you've finished the training.
I haven't flown VFR since pre GPS, but it takes little more than common sense and a small amount of experience to draw a pencil line on a map with some distance/time marks, and then just keep hill X on the right and lake Y on the left etc. Its not a complicated skill you have to worry about losing.
As far as efbs go I use an ipad that I can't stand - but have begun to accept over the years, and Jeppesen which is about as bad (work provides it all). I did use Ozrunways until a few years ago and I did like that, however it became too expensive for something I didn't really need given the employer provided alternative.
As a side note, I dare say there are more people flying around with expired paper charts than there are getting lost because thier efb stopped working. And even after all that is said and done, its going to be overconfidence (particularly with weather) that you need to keep a healthy fear of rather than worrying about paper vs electronic nav equipment.
I haven't flown VFR since pre GPS, but it takes little more than common sense and a small amount of experience to draw a pencil line on a map with some distance/time marks, and then just keep hill X on the right and lake Y on the left etc. Its not a complicated skill you have to worry about losing.
As far as efbs go I use an ipad that I can't stand - but have begun to accept over the years, and Jeppesen which is about as bad (work provides it all). I did use Ozrunways until a few years ago and I did like that, however it became too expensive for something I didn't really need given the employer provided alternative.
As a side note, I dare say there are more people flying around with expired paper charts than there are getting lost because thier efb stopped working. And even after all that is said and done, its going to be overconfidence (particularly with weather) that you need to keep a healthy fear of rather than worrying about paper vs electronic nav equipment.
I've used OzRwys and Foreflight.
In my opinion, OzRWYS is a much cleaner APP. It's Weather briefing is fantastic! "Smart Brief" really helps deciphering GAFs quicker, and the overplayed GPWT charts are great. I can't comment on the flight planning accuracy as I haven't used it for such.
Foreflight is feature rich, but having come from OZR, not very intuitive. But that's more than than likely as a result of being used to OZR. Now that Boeing owns OZR, I hope to see the weather briefing power moved to FF.
If I was paying for it myself, I'd be using OZR.
In my opinion, OzRWYS is a much cleaner APP. It's Weather briefing is fantastic! "Smart Brief" really helps deciphering GAFs quicker, and the overplayed GPWT charts are great. I can't comment on the flight planning accuracy as I haven't used it for such.
Foreflight is feature rich, but having come from OZR, not very intuitive. But that's more than than likely as a result of being used to OZR. Now that Boeing owns OZR, I hope to see the weather briefing power moved to FF.
If I was paying for it myself, I'd be using OZR.
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Tip for Android phone users: "TrackDirect" is an awesome, simple, free and seriously underrated app for getting weather briefings, charts, etc straight from NAIPS!! Look it up on Google Play. It isn't available on iPhone though (bad luck, I say) and is something I use on my phone more than either EFB app.
In my opinion, OzRWYS is a much cleaner APP. It's Weather briefing is fantastic! "Smart Brief" really helps deciphering GAFs quicker, and the overplayed GPWT charts are great. I can't comment on the flight planning accuracy as I haven't used it for such.
Foreflight is feature rich, but having come from OZR, not very intuitive. But that's more than than likely as a result of being used to OZR. Now that Boeing owns OZR, I hope to see the weather briefing power moved to FF.
If I was paying for it myself, I'd be using OZR.
Foreflight is feature rich, but having come from OZR, not very intuitive. But that's more than than likely as a result of being used to OZR. Now that Boeing owns OZR, I hope to see the weather briefing power moved to FF.
If I was paying for it myself, I'd be using OZR.
So if you're after an easy-to-use EFB that does all of the basics and does them very well (for now), then OzRwys really is hard to beat.
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I run it on my Pixel 7 with the latest android update installed without difficulty. So maybe an issue on your end?
Of the Aussie EFBs I started with OzRunways and moved to AvPlan. Steeper learning curve but a better app in the longer run I feel.
I've used Foreflight on a few overseas trips I've done. Even more complicated to get to know but also feature rich. However, most of the good features cost extra over the basic subscription.
Of the Aussie EFBs I started with OzRunways and moved to AvPlan. Steeper learning curve but a better app in the longer run I feel.
I've used Foreflight on a few overseas trips I've done. Even more complicated to get to know but also feature rich. However, most of the good features cost extra over the basic subscription.
I don’t know anyone that’s actually used the 1/60 rule for as long as I’ve been flying and that’s nearly 30 years
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I would guess 10% of airline pilots know and use it in the RADAR context, maybe less. It's the one area of flying that is very poorly taught in the airlines.
I would guess 10% of airline pilots know and use it in the RADAR context, maybe less
Both products are doing the same job, however AvPlan stands out because they are listening to their customers.
I asked yesterday if Avalon vor36 approach plate can be overlayed over the chart. Beyond my expectations, they've done it literally within an hour.
I asked yesterday if Avalon vor36 approach plate can be overlayed over the chart. Beyond my expectations, they've done it literally within an hour.
Still doesn't mean one shouldn't consider the alternatives, but it is indeed a huge plus for Avplan (...and Trackdirect
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