Definition of Ab-Initio Training for purpose of instructor endorsements
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Definition of Ab-Initio Training for purpose of instructor endorsements
Anyone able to elaborate on the definition of ab-initio in relation to instructors wanting to upgrade from Grade 3 to Grade 2 and Grade 1 training endorsements.
It is obvious that training from Effects of Controls up the RPL is all ab-initio but there appears to be some grey areas for other training.
I was speaking to one HOO working for an organisation that does a large number of TIFs as 'adventure flights' so no real training is really being conducted who had an instructor upgrade to Grade 2 with over 100 of his "ab-initio" hours just being these TIF flights. Same organisation does quite a few conversions from RAAus certificates to GA and they classify much of the training done for this purpose as ab-initio as well as the trainee doesn't officially hold a CASA licence. This one I am on the fence about as many RAAus pilots would present like an ab-initio CASA student anyway with pretty poor flying ability (not all but many, depending on where they trained).
Anyone have any opinions (or definitive answers) on this?
It is obvious that training from Effects of Controls up the RPL is all ab-initio but there appears to be some grey areas for other training.
I was speaking to one HOO working for an organisation that does a large number of TIFs as 'adventure flights' so no real training is really being conducted who had an instructor upgrade to Grade 2 with over 100 of his "ab-initio" hours just being these TIF flights. Same organisation does quite a few conversions from RAAus certificates to GA and they classify much of the training done for this purpose as ab-initio as well as the trainee doesn't officially hold a CASA licence. This one I am on the fence about as many RAAus pilots would present like an ab-initio CASA student anyway with pretty poor flying ability (not all but many, depending on where they trained).
Anyone have any opinions (or definitive answers) on this?
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“Ab-initio” flight training has been replaced with the term “initial” flight training. Refer the definitions under 61.010:
“initial flight training means dual flight conducted for training in the units of competency mentioned in the Part 61 Manual of Standards for the grant of a recreational pilot license”
“initial flight training means dual flight conducted for training in the units of competency mentioned in the Part 61 Manual of Standards for the grant of a recreational pilot license”
