Changes to the system
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Changes to the system
For those that have been around for a while:
When did the Restricted PPL (later to called GFPT and later gain the RPL) come into being? Year?
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What year did ASA change aerodrome prefixes from e.g. ABDV to YBDV.
I recall it went from A to Y almost overnight with little advance notice.
When did the Restricted PPL (later to called GFPT and later gain the RPL) come into being? Year?
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What year did ASA change aerodrome prefixes from e.g. ABDV to YBDV.
I recall it went from A to Y almost overnight with little advance notice.
I was still in Flight Service and instructed on the changes, so it would have to have been 1988 or earlier. The change was made as part of the change from 6 to 8 letter identifiers for aviation facilities on the AFTN (Aeronautical Fixed Telecommunication Network). Sydney Tower went from ASSYZT to YSSYZTZX.
I don't think the location codes for aerodromes changed as early as 1988. (It might have for international flights...).
For example, the Autumn 1990 Aviation Safety Digest quiz question 7 opens with: "You are planning a flight to Melbourne (AMML) with an ETA of 0500UTC."
I think the changes (at least for pilots filling out flight plans and getting forecasts and NOTAMS through the system) changed in around December 91?
For example, the Autumn 1990 Aviation Safety Digest quiz question 7 opens with: "You are planning a flight to Melbourne (AMML) with an ETA of 0500UTC."
I think the changes (at least for pilots filling out flight plans and getting forecasts and NOTAMS through the system) changed in around December 91?
Definitely post 1989 as it was still "A" when I commenced FS training that year and the change was several years later - I'm plugging for 93. The AFTN changes must be what you're thinking about as they were already through in 89.
Papua New Guinea had a sub-ICAO code of AY when it was administered by Australia. We used A followed by the FIR code such as S=Sydney, B=Brisbane. (eg Brisbane = ABBN, Sydney = ASSY)
PNG became independent on 16 Sep 1975 and retained the sub-FIR code AY (see Jackson Field, Port Moresby which is still AYPY)
I do not know when Australia decided it needed a separate code, the FS guys would have a better idea, being involved in message addressing. I would guess that it would have occurred when we updated our AFTN machinery.
I imagine that there were not many letters left so we chose Y.
PNG became independent on 16 Sep 1975 and retained the sub-FIR code AY (see Jackson Field, Port Moresby which is still AYPY)
I do not know when Australia decided it needed a separate code, the FS guys would have a better idea, being involved in message addressing. I would guess that it would have occurred when we updated our AFTN machinery.
I imagine that there were not many letters left so we chose Y.
I was issued a Restricted PPL in February 1967 with the list of restrictions on page 7. (subsequently followed some months later with a large stamp across the entire page, 'RESTRICTION LIFTED').
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What year did ASA change aerodrome prefixes from e.g. ABDV to YBDV.
I recall it went from A to Y almost overnight with little advance notice.
I recall it went from A to Y almost overnight with little advance notice.
For info:
On 30 November 1973 the DCA merged with the Department of Shipping and Transport and became the Department of Transport, Air Transport Group. This group was again reformed as its own Department on 7 May 1982, the Department of Aviation (DOA). Another merger took place on 24 July 1987 when the DOA was absorbed by the Department of Transport and Communications. On 1 July 1988 the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) was formed to control aviation safety regulation and provide air traffic services.
That's the progression of goverment attitude right there as well.
A "Department of ..." sees their role as promoting whatever they're department of.
An "Authority" sees their role as Ordering people working in the industry about.
A "Safety Authority" sees their role as defending public safety from those reckless arseholes in the industry, preferrably by stopping them from working at all.
A "Department of ..." sees their role as promoting whatever they're department of.
An "Authority" sees their role as Ordering people working in the industry about.
A "Safety Authority" sees their role as defending public safety from those reckless arseholes in the industry, preferrably by stopping them from working at all.
I think Perth used to have it's own FIR. Thus
APDN for Darwin
APMR was Meekatharra
APGN Geraldton
APKG Kalgoorlie
APCR Carnarvon
YPAD is a throwback to those days.
etc etc
APDN for Darwin
APMR was Meekatharra
APGN Geraldton
APKG Kalgoorlie
APCR Carnarvon
YPAD is a throwback to those days.
etc etc
Yep. And YPPF
Sydney had its own FIR. Thus
YSDU
YSWG
YSBK
etc
and of course YSSY
Sydney had its own FIR. Thus
YSDU
YSWG
YSBK
etc
and of course YSSY
The change from Department of Aviation (DOA) has certainly worked it’s way thru DOTC And CAA to the penultimate Authority CAsA…which has in fact achieved its original acronym…
DOA.. Death of Aviation.
DOA.. Death of Aviation.
I imagine that there were not many letters left so we chose Y.
For more background https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICAO_airport_code