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Question for the SY ATC team regarding parallel ops and crossing assigned runway centre line, When IVA and ATIS has
"do not pass through assigned runway centre line"
when we are vectored on a base leg and for whatever reason the heading for final is not given, are we required to turn on to our assigned runway without clearance?
I have had this discussion many times, Ill usually arm the LOC (I know we can’t descend past the last clearance level) when on base as a threat mitigation as id rather not head for the 380 on the other runway, this usually leads to a the other crew member stating "we are not cleared for the approach"
"do not pass through assigned runway centre line"
when we are vectored on a base leg and for whatever reason the heading for final is not given, are we required to turn on to our assigned runway without clearance?
I have had this discussion many times, Ill usually arm the LOC (I know we can’t descend past the last clearance level) when on base as a threat mitigation as id rather not head for the 380 on the other runway, this usually leads to a the other crew member stating "we are not cleared for the approach"
The reason that the phrase is on the ATI is because pilots have allowed the LOC to capture and when it doesn't or is late in doing so, BINGO its no longer an independent approach. Aircraft too fast on base, aircraft not correctly flying the intercept, aircraft not flying an independent visual approach had led to increased R/T and the phrase on the ATI. Perhaps I should bang on about CASA and AsA not educating the pilot bodies.
Here is the relevant passage:
Originally Posted by Jepps YSSY pg 10-6B
If, for any reason, including radio failure or radio congestion, contact cannot be established or maintained with DIR such that it prevents an instruction being issued by ATC or a vectoring request being made by the flight crew, do not pass through your runway centreline. Commence the turn to enable intercept of the final approach course for the runway assigned, then track the extended centreline of the runway assigned.
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Unless ATC advises an expectation to pass through CL, you should turn final as per the posts above. Check the IVA user guide in DAP-E. Bear in mind the LOC isn't protected during IVAs. GLS better if you have it.
