110 seater jets for Bankstown, Moorabbin, Archerfield
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"country completely broke"
let me guess, you voted coalition because <insert generic nonsense about economic emergency here>?
on topic: AFAIK strengthening the runways as opposed to lengthening them would actually be more costly wouldn't it?
let me guess, you voted coalition because <insert generic nonsense about economic emergency here>?
on topic: AFAIK strengthening the runways as opposed to lengthening them would actually be more costly wouldn't it?
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So you think the gummit should spent with gay abandon to get our debt level up to the same as other countries? We have billions and billions of debt which you and I and my kids have to pay off; I'm in no mood for those jokers in Canberra to borrow even more, thank you.
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I suspect that the citizens living in proximity to Bankstown might have something to say about the idea of turning it into a busy regional hub. Ditto for Archerfield, Moorabbin. Any airport established or expanded in the middle of suburban housing will very soon be hamstrung by curfews and noise complaints. Does the OP know about Essendon?
Assuming that existing airport expansion isn't possible, it's cheaper in the long run to build a new airport in a rural or industrial area, and protect it from housing development. It's that last factor that sinks many airports, and unfortunately there's not much will to establish and enforce housing restrictions in Australia.
Assuming that existing airport expansion isn't possible, it's cheaper in the long run to build a new airport in a rural or industrial area, and protect it from housing development. It's that last factor that sinks many airports, and unfortunately there's not much will to establish and enforce housing restrictions in Australia.
Just like the folk who move in next to pubs and have them shut down because the live music is annoying. Never mind they'd been a music venue for decades prior.
In YMMB's case the few jets that come in and out of there aren't any noisier on take off or landing than some of the piston aircraft IME. They're a bit annoying to stand near in the parking areas however.
MB is already pretty busy, I don't think a few flights a day in these new jets would make much of an impact however
MB is already pretty busy, I don't think a few flights a day in these new jets would make much of an impact however
Tootle pip!!
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'Kaby' it's not so much the noise, the few extra movements or so it's the COST, the infrastructure or lack of it that has this idea as pie in the sky stuff. Christ ANY Aussie Govt or private operator can't get the most basic things sorted (especially when it comes to aviation) never lone this hair brained scheme to fix a completely useless permanent problem we have in Oz, LACK OF FORESIGHT & LEADERSHIP!
Syd is a joke re utilization & with & having BK in close prox would mean all sorts of delays for A/C in & out of both dromes (SY&BK)
Wmk2
Syd is a joke re utilization & with & having BK in close prox would mean all sorts of delays for A/C in & out of both dromes (SY&BK)
Wmk2
Syd is a joke re utilization & with & having BK in close prox would mean all sorts of delays for A/C in & out of both dromes (SY&BK)
Only because of self imposed limitations in Australian ATC. If we could handle traffic like the US, Bankstown would not be a problem, and training would not be forced out for a miserable 10 RPT movements per day.
Get a map of the Los Angeles basin, and count up the number of airports and airfields, and it is not much bigger than the Sydney basin, and ringed on three sides with much bigger hills than Sydney.
As an ATC traffiv handling problem, Sydney is almost analogous to Honolulu International --- look at what they quite comfortably accommodate.
Tootle pip!!
Looking at all the Fokker 100's & 70's and Bae 146's at Essendon today for the Grand Final, you would have to say Essendon is very well suited to handle such traffic. They make the airport look alive again.
Nig not nog
Nig not nog
'Leady' we all know why of the limitations that's not in dispute here but it is a joke because of that, the end result, that was my ref.
We are in a bubble when it comes to aviation, the boffins whom make the draconian rules simply have no idea!
Wmk2
We are in a bubble when it comes to aviation, the boffins whom make the draconian rules simply have no idea!
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Well I heard the next airport to be built will be on the Central Coast. All a done deal apparently. BK relegated to a slow death to be consumed by the ever expanding metropolis.
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From what I noticed about the Badgerys Creek plan it seems like it would cut a large chunk out of the training area for YSBK, or at least displace it significantly. Assuming that hot potato ever gets planted, wouldn't that end any need for RPT out of YSBK, and possibly with the impact to training also cause longevity issues for the airport operators?
