Today is 12.12.2010 - 19yrs on.....
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Today is 12.12.2010 - 19yrs on.....
Today is the 19th anniversary of the first of the 'modernisation' and other changes which commenced .....
12.12.'91..........
The beginning of the end ....some would have said.
In those 19 years, just what has been achieved..??
An 'old' thread by now I know, but, "Wot's left"..??
I'm off to have a quiet beer with a couple of guys and gals, who can remember.....
Cheers All...
12.12.'91..........
The beginning of the end ....some would have said.
In those 19 years, just what has been achieved..??
An 'old' thread by now I know, but, "Wot's left"..??
I'm off to have a quiet beer with a couple of guys and gals, who can remember.....
Cheers All...
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More history from 1991
Ø On March 26, 1991, Singapore Airlines Flight 117 was hijacked by some nutters. Aircraft was an Airbus A310. Commandos took out all the bad guys and no pax or crew were killed. A good outcome.
Ø Pan Am went ‘tits up’ in 1991. Lockerbie was the beginning of the end for this majestic carrier.
Ø Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 108, DC9 ate a mountain top. 45 souls lost.
Ø China Airlines Flight 358, a Boeing 747 freighter ate a hill top. No surviving crew.
Ø The Yanks lost a couple of Embraer's in 91, including one on Sep 11 1991. Ironic date.
Ø India contributed to the years carnage and had an Indian Airlines Flight 257, Boeing 737 eat a hilltop. No survivors.
Ø Who could forget Lauda Air Flight 004, Boeing 767? All 223 onboard perished R.I.P
Ø Nigeria Airways Flight 2120, a. DC8. It caught fire after take-off. Underinflated tyres was the cause and 261 died. Worst DC8 crash to date.
Ø Scandinavian Airlines Flight 751, an MD-80 with 129 souls onboard and all survived. Aircraft stalled at 1000 metres due to ice build-up on the wings. A fortunate outcome in retrospect.
Ø United Airlines Flight 585, Boeing 737 with 25 souls onboard, all perished. This was one of the infamous ‘rudder deflection’ accidents that Boeing could have done without.
Ø USAir Flight 1493, a Boeing 737 and a Fairchild Metro.The 737 had 89 souls onboard with 22 dying and the Metro had 12 onboard and all died. The 737 landed on top of the Metro at LAX.
Never to be forgotten.....
Ø Pan Am went ‘tits up’ in 1991. Lockerbie was the beginning of the end for this majestic carrier.
Ø Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela Flight 108, DC9 ate a mountain top. 45 souls lost.
Ø China Airlines Flight 358, a Boeing 747 freighter ate a hill top. No surviving crew.
Ø The Yanks lost a couple of Embraer's in 91, including one on Sep 11 1991. Ironic date.
Ø India contributed to the years carnage and had an Indian Airlines Flight 257, Boeing 737 eat a hilltop. No survivors.
Ø Who could forget Lauda Air Flight 004, Boeing 767? All 223 onboard perished R.I.P
Ø Nigeria Airways Flight 2120, a. DC8. It caught fire after take-off. Underinflated tyres was the cause and 261 died. Worst DC8 crash to date.
Ø Scandinavian Airlines Flight 751, an MD-80 with 129 souls onboard and all survived. Aircraft stalled at 1000 metres due to ice build-up on the wings. A fortunate outcome in retrospect.
Ø United Airlines Flight 585, Boeing 737 with 25 souls onboard, all perished. This was one of the infamous ‘rudder deflection’ accidents that Boeing could have done without.
Ø USAir Flight 1493, a Boeing 737 and a Fairchild Metro.The 737 had 89 souls onboard with 22 dying and the Metro had 12 onboard and all died. The 737 landed on top of the Metro at LAX.
Never to be forgotten.....
Last edited by Cactusjack; 12th Dec 2010 at 10:46.
In those 19 years, just what has been achieved..??
Shame shame shame.
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Aye Aye Cap'n,....
And, ooops I've corrected the date....
But NOTHING ELSE HAS BEEN 'CORRECTED'..!!
Except for...........
Thanks again for the 'redundo', Dick..!!i
And, ooops I've corrected the date....
But NOTHING ELSE HAS BEEN 'CORRECTED'..!!
Except for...........
Thanks again for the 'redundo', Dick..!!i
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Fixed the thread title for you Fumble Fingers! 
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Griffo,
Yep, sad day, yet another CEO with a personal agenda, sadly out of touch with reality
Does an unspeakable amount of damage then walks away cos it all got too hard.
I flew out to Dubbo and back and got one of the duty FISo's last briefings.
A system that worked remarkably well and...............combined with a modernisation that OZBUSDRIVER speaks of on the other thread would have been a cracker of a system. AND cheaper than the abortion that is occuring now.
Dunno about the west but there are an enormous amount of controlled airspace penetrations over here. Something that didn't seem to happen that much when there were Briefing Offices to give you a few tips on how to avoid before getting airborne.
Yep, sad day, yet another CEO with a personal agenda, sadly out of touch with reality
Does an unspeakable amount of damage then walks away cos it all got too hard.I flew out to Dubbo and back and got one of the duty FISo's last briefings.
A system that worked remarkably well and...............combined with a modernisation that OZBUSDRIVER speaks of on the other thread would have been a cracker of a system. AND cheaper than the abortion that is occuring now.
Dunno about the west but there are an enormous amount of controlled airspace penetrations over here. Something that didn't seem to happen that much when there were Briefing Offices to give you a few tips on how to avoid before getting airborne.
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Strewth! That long ago yet already!!
Have'nt done much aviating in the last couple of years but still now regret that you cannot walk into an office and pick up the forecasts and lodge a flight plan with a person whom would cast a steely eye over it and always spot any errors you may have made!
A perfect example of the old adage; 'A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.'
Have'nt done much aviating in the last couple of years but still now regret that you cannot walk into an office and pick up the forecasts and lodge a flight plan with a person whom would cast a steely eye over it and always spot any errors you may have made!
Continual meddling, by enthusiastic amateurs
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
Just because someone may have assembled some furniture at some point, it doesn't mean they can build an entire house!
...............all sad but the biggest trouble with aviation is that it was invented!
In it's hey day aviation was a 'service' to all, it's now just a tool to make money hence 'service' no longer applies in most cases.
The guys/gals at the coal face of flying still provide a service best they can with what little they have because most in aviation do it for not just money but for the love of it
Wmk2
In it's hey day aviation was a 'service' to all, it's now just a tool to make money hence 'service' no longer applies in most cases.
The guys/gals at the coal face of flying still provide a service best they can with what little they have because most in aviation do it for not just money but for the love of it
Wmk2
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Griffo
Many thanks for the thread- and 'we' (that are old enough..), DO remember.......... many thanks/& well done, to you and those you worked with (as said once before).
Glad Dicks' offer was 'Blue Ribbon' for you and those that did such good work............. although, the overall concept in 'my' opinion was short sighted in a user pays world, or such a sparsely settled Continent.
Well done all, what remains doesn't impress any of us much that traverse this land mass.
Rgds
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Many thanks for the thread- and 'we' (that are old enough..), DO remember.......... many thanks/& well done, to you and those you worked with (as said once before
).Glad Dicks' offer was 'Blue Ribbon' for you and those that did such good work............. although, the overall concept in 'my' opinion was short sighted in a user pays world, or such a sparsely settled Continent.
Well done all, what remains doesn't impress any of us much that traverse this land mass.
Rgds
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I liked the FS at Dubbo
Always give me a coffee and order a cab!
And Cooma was great to - they would be on duty on a Sunday afternoon to take my VFR plan Thredbo to TLS
Sometimes mine was the only plan put in that afternoon and it was all paid for by the Airlines.
But don,t blame me It was O'Keef and others who did the deal with Aussat that resulted in the local stations closing.
Always give me a coffee and order a cab!
And Cooma was great to - they would be on duty on a Sunday afternoon to take my VFR plan Thredbo to TLS
Sometimes mine was the only plan put in that afternoon and it was all paid for by the Airlines.
But don,t blame me It was O'Keef and others who did the deal with Aussat that resulted in the local stations closing.