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Old 26th Aug 2010, 14:03
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I have a vague recollection of a fatal Tiger Moth crash in Toowoomba back in the 60/70s as a result of a "sugared" petrol tank.
Similar incident around same time (maybe earlier) to an Auster in the Armidale, NSW, area. The pilot who was a former Royal Australian Navy pilot was killed. His name was McNaughton. Really nice bloke. Rumour at the time was he upset someone at the pub and for revenge someone poured sugar into the Auster fuel tank. He was one of my students on No 24 Post War Pilots Course at No1 Basic Flying Training School, RAAF Base Uranquinty, in January 1956.

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Did they ever find anyone responsible for that beaut Curtis 182 (with the art work lady on the fin) that got torched - parked at Mittagong wasn't it?
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Not sure if you are thinking of this one - Must have been late 90s a Lancair overnighted on a flight between WA and eastern states somewhere in SA. The aircraft was refueled upon arrival and parked up overnight. Next morning pilots boarded and soon after takeoff experienced engine failure resulting in stall and impact with the ground.
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There was a classic with a MU2? in WA many years ago. Fueled from sealed drums at a strip. Some drums had been drained, filled with water and the seal replaced. At least they were at a fair altitude when tanks were switched and things became very quiet.
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 00:31
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Unfortunately as much a you'd like to think that Lancair crash would result in a murder charge it would never stand as it was not pre-meditated. Manslaughter on the other would be most approptiate with maximum sentencing but even that would be hard to press on the offender if the pilot/s didn't check the fuel quantity.
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Old 27th Aug 2010, 09:27
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Tyabb is my local airport and I'm about to start my flight training at the Aero Club. Its scary to think someone would do something like that.

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Old 27th Aug 2010, 10:56
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A good lesson for doing a good pre-flight. Start even before you get to the a/c. Does it look ship shape? (Maybe the refuel truck backed into it)
Then the close look, for cracks in the prop. etc. etc. YOU do it, don't count on the instructor, except to show you how. A favourite trick of my staff was to leave the oil cap off, but carefully button down the cowl flap.
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 06:51
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Yep, you are correct, but there were 2 chieftains affected. There is still some of that stuff going on at BK, and there does appear to be a common denominator, as in perpetrator. Wires pulled off alternators, contaminated fuel, etc. Said suspect has a pathological hatred of security cameras, sort of gives himself away, doesn't it?
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A favourite trick of my staff was to leave the oil cap off, but carefully button down the cowl flap.
Not a very wise thing to do. I hope check captains in the airlines don't do such tricks when line training new first officers..
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Old 28th Aug 2010, 22:43
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A favourite trick of my staff was to leave the oil cap off
Ahh, entrapment, not a wise training orchecking technique. And it usually has a habit of eventually biting you on the bum, too.

I would suggest that a training or check captain who does that is lacking somewhat in his skills in that capacity.
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Old 29th Aug 2010, 09:46
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When I was in Riyadh KSA, a Citation belonging to the Bin-Laden family in Dahran was badly f**ked up with what im guessing would had to have been a heavy sledge hammer...all the windows stoved in, pitot tubes smashed off and various other nasty things...nearly new aircraft! Not very subtle, but certainly got the point across I guess.

I had the pix somewhere, it'd make you cry!

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a Citation belonging to the Bin-Laden family
Wouldn't make me cry.
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Arnold E,

Not a very smart thing to say, Osama has long since been cast out of the family.

The family runs one of the biggest construction enterprises in the middle east, and has considerable aviation businesses, including a large non-scheduled carrier in the US.

Via US holding companies, the family has very extensive aviation interests ---- extending to Australia. The US Carlyle Corporation does come to mind.

Tootle pip!!
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Osama has long since been cast out of the family.
Really?, Then it isn't a problem then is it?

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Old 29th Aug 2010, 10:40
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Tee Emm, dodo. Check Captains, technique??

My "staff" was the boy that tops up my oil. The "trick" was his mistake.
Mine was to not check the blighter. My trick was a 180 to land again as the oil came up the windscreen. My post was to indicate how thorough a pre-flight should be. Ie. trust no one.
Then there was the airliner tried to fly with some tape over the static vents. Such a little thing.
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Bang on the money Lead, the old man was an absolute gent...
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And for anybody who is going to park up in Greymouth (NZ) overnight at any stage...DO NOT park down by the fence line. Had 80L flogged from my 172 overnight. Boy racers apparently. Was odd. I KNEW I put 120L in only 30min flying time away, and yet, left tank, BONE dry, right tank 15L Unfortunately, no fuel at the drome for 3 days! Was not a happy camper...
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