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Old 15th Jul 2009, 02:55
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If I had my time again, I would have got an accounting degree (or something similar)...something which is not really the most exciting of jobs but has a good wage and has job security...and just got a ppl and flew for fun on the weekends.....
Unfortunately there isn't a great deal more job security in being an accountant than most other industries.

When times are good and companies are purchasing other companies and there are mergers, etc the premise of doing a lot of these deals is that you can rationalise costs. The first areas targetted for staff reductions are therefroe finance and administration.

Then when things get tough and companies need to reduce staff they first look at the non-revenue producing employees and cull them.

So, unfortunately as a finance person you can never be 100% certain that you will have a job tomorrow.

I think you should do what you love, even if the pay isn't as flash, as long as oyu can survive on it, then as long as you are happy.
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 04:57
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Van gough,
Yeh that is my target. I have my own business (non aviation related) and own a Pitts Special. I fly one commercially too, regularly fly other types like Tiger Moth and Yak 52 - but flying has always been a part time thing for me, but fulltime passion from a young age.
Never rule anything out but this is the life!
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I think you should do what you love, even if the pay isn't as flash, as long as oyu can survive on it, then as long as you are happy.
There is only so long you can survive driving 20 year old commodore watching the Aboriginal family over the road pull up in a brand new landcruiser every year.

Drinking beer is great, but eventually the Mrs wants champagne, and there aint enough champagne up there for all of us

I feel for the single engine drivers right now, take a good look at that 210, cause it'll be home for at least the next 3 years
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 10:45
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I have my own business and drive a Honda Civic.
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Goblin, what about that racist slur? Care to explain yourselves, or are you just another xenophobic nitwit?
 
Old 15th Jul 2009, 11:06
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Goblin, what about that racist slur? Care to explain yourselves, or are you just another xenophobic nitwit?
Doesn't sound racist, just a statement of the obvious.....
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 11:07
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sigh

D-J I think if you read post #2 you may get your reason behind the above comment...not rolling eyes at you btw

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Old 15th Jul 2009, 11:18
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No j3, I don't respond to silly personal affronts, but racism gets my back up every time. As far as I'm concerned, racist fwits have no raison d'etre and should be outcast any way possible. We live in a global world, especially in aviation, and the Australians are know around the world as one of the worst societies when it comes to dealing with the original inhabitants of the land they took, so comments like that and the still pervasive bogan racism in society is a sh!t stain this society needs to work hard to get rid of fast!

D-J, the specific singling out of Aboriginals as the object of envy makes it a racist comment by default. Any issues understanding that, look up the definition of racism
 
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Goblin, what about that racist slur? Care to explain yourselves, or are you just another xenophobic nitwit?
Racist slur

WE

Xenophobic

You always do seem to add 1 + 1 and get 3 don't you Planky

Someone sure did whack a 2 x 4 over that head of yours at some stage
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 11:20
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 11:25
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Better turn the fasten seat belt sign on, plankbender is getting fired up again
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 11:53
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I don't respond to silly personal affronts
You looked pretty fired up the other day when you and your church buddies got booted from the Tiger flight from Melbourne back to the Goldy

should be outcast any way possible.
I used to be called a white c&#nt on a daily basis as a way of being addressed, so by your rational there wouldn't be too many folk left in northern Australia if they were all outcast

Australians are know around the world as one of the worst societies when it comes to dealing with the original inhabitants of the land they took
Geez if free transport, cheap/free housing healthcare and vehicles is being hard done by, i'd love to see what being treated well is like!

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Old 15th Jul 2009, 12:10
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You looked pretty fired up the other day when you and your church buddies got booted from the Tiger flight from Melbourne back to the Goldy
No idea what you're on about, I have my own winged transport and haven't been on a commercial domestic flight in a fair while..

The rest of your post it just a bad example of that ill-informed bogan racism I was talking about
 
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Do you guys mind taking this somewhere else? This was a helpful thread for the guy until you two started.

Lesson number two in aviation mate, although many pilots are top blokes who are humble enough to help a new guy get into this great industry, there is always a couple who will take any opportunity to prove how big their dicks are
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Old 15th Jul 2009, 13:38
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oh dear...another one

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Old 15th Jul 2009, 13:50
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7 Eng App.

There has been a great deal of excellent, well rounded advice given to you on this thread (mainly page 1 ). I hope that you are able to take it all on board and digest it slowly and thoughfully. I wish you the best of luck in your search for your vocation and hope that when you do make your choice, it is devoid of external pressure and is something that will allow you to live a comfortable, fulfilled life.

If you have questions in regards to flying (what to expect, etc) and the first few years of GA (from my humlbe experinces), I am more than willing to answer them, just drop me a PM

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Old 15th Jul 2009, 18:59
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mcgrath50, I hear you, however I'd say this thread is still helpful for a newbie as it gives some insight into the characters he or she is likely to encounter in this industry.

7's first boss may be one of those characters who shine here and in the real world by showing off their limited world view and education, often expressed as racism and a general inability to entertain others' points of view, or he could be a humble, worldly-wise aviator.

There are ample examples of either type out there; if someone treats junior pilots like sh!t, will pull rank at the first sign of something not going his/her way or brown-nose superiors or customers excessively, and is generally the dodgy dealer type who likes to cut corners and thinks he/she knows it all, chances are you're dealing with the type that's dangerous as an entrepreneur or pilot in this industry. They're usually the louder, more abrasive type, and thus easy to spot and avoid.

The second type may be harder to make out as they normally don't see the need to impose their view of the world on others unless asked.. when approached however, you may experience generosity, humbleness, and other admirable traits.

A person's choice on who to associate with and who to stay well clear of starts early as we all know, there's been an example of the former and the latter persona in pretty much any training school I've seen. If the dimwit is the CFI, RUN! If it's just one of the instructors, well, just don't fly with him or her or engage in discussions beyond the quality of beer..
 
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Geez, someone has an axe to grind, I wonder how I earned the priviledge?

Suffice to say we agree to disagree, very well then, pass a stubbie

And yes, I passed Aerodynamics on the first go (85%), and yesterday also Meteorology (100%, I kid you not, reading Weather Flying, the BoM Aviation Manual of Met and Bob Tait paid off!!). Nav to go and I'm done, at least with the fixed wing stuff

Ah yes, and Stephen is not my name, sorry to disappoint you.
 
Old 16th Jul 2009, 01:20
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geee where's that Micheal Jackson gif when you need it
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Old 16th Jul 2009, 01:45
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