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PFS have:
1 Cessna 152 (I think it may be an Aerobat-don't quote me on that though)
2 Piper Warrior II
1 Piper Warrior III
1 Piper Seminole
And access to Piper Archer and Beechcraft Duchess.
I hired one of the Warrior II aircraft recently, had a Garmin 430 in it and only set me back $175/hour which is less than pretty much everyone on Bankstown.
1 Cessna 152 (I think it may be an Aerobat-don't quote me on that though)
2 Piper Warrior II
1 Piper Warrior III
1 Piper Seminole
And access to Piper Archer and Beechcraft Duchess.
I hired one of the Warrior II aircraft recently, had a Garmin 430 in it and only set me back $175/hour which is less than pretty much everyone on Bankstown.
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FAA to CASA
1.Any School aids in Foreign CPL conversion to CASA CPL and how long does it take?
2.After Conversion into CASA,Where to go for an Instructor rating and is any school hiring instructors?
please enlighten.
Thanks
2.After Conversion into CASA,Where to go for an Instructor rating and is any school hiring instructors?
please enlighten.
Thanks
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I may be wrong but am pretty sure C & H are still at the feild and are paying the rent as per the court procedings. They are a good school and produce a pilot to a to notch standard.
I may be wrong but am pretty sure C & H are still at the feild and are paying the rent as per the court procedings. They are a good school and produce a pilot to a to notch standard.
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Stay in Greece
I think you should stay in Greece, don't come to my school PLEASE. You ask for advice and as soon as someone gives it to you then you ask about some other school, you will be a pain in the arze to train. Do your OWN homework we can only handfeed you so much. Get off your backside and go to these places and talk to them yourself. For Christ sake.
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Stay in Greece
don't come to my school PLEASE
you will be a pain in the arze to train
Do your OWN homework
Get off your backside and go to these places and talk to them yourself. For Christ sake.
don't come to my school PLEASE
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If you want to be treated like a professional and taught to think for yourself go to Bill Whitworth. He is a gentleman and will do everything to make sure students acheive what they are capable of in the time frame available to them. When you finish with Bill you can rest assured that you will be safe and competent.
As an aside, in December one of his students finished his commercial and was hired the next day. The reason; Bill is so highly thought of that employers seek his opinion on stidents and act on it.
As an aside, in December one of his students finished his commercial and was hired the next day. The reason; Bill is so highly thought of that employers seek his opinion on stidents and act on it.
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Hello.
Thankyou all for your responses.I see the best in bankstown is whitworth,PFS,sydney aviation college.I will check them all when i visti australia.I Have also seen on the internet about a school called aerospace aviation.Are there any opinions?
Thanks
Thankyou all for your responses.I see the best in bankstown is whitworth,PFS,sydney aviation college.I will check them all when i visti australia.I Have also seen on the internet about a school called aerospace aviation.Are there any opinions?
Thanks
I would stay away from aerospace, basair also. They all are a bit of a sausage factory.
Check out schofields-flying-club.com.au/
Well worth a check out on your tour of Bankstown
Check out schofields-flying-club.com.au/
Well worth a check out on your tour of Bankstown
Students and Money are fed into one end of a machine.
The machinery is started.
A short time later a string of PPLs' emerge from the other end of the factory.
The factory is cleaned and the above process is repeated.
The machinery is started.
A short time later a string of PPLs' emerge from the other end of the factory.
The factory is cleaned and the above process is repeated.
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Aerospace is definitely not the worst on the field! They are a sausage factory but their quality of students is much better than the average.
Look for instructor / student ratio or at least someone who'll be responsible for your progression. You don't want to become 'lost in the system' which happens often at the larger schools.
What's Curtis like these days? They were great a few years ago when I was there
Look for instructor / student ratio or at least someone who'll be responsible for your progression. You don't want to become 'lost in the system' which happens often at the larger schools.
What's Curtis like these days? They were great a few years ago when I was there
I've done a bit of training at both Schofields and whitworths so can't really comment on any of the other schools.
I'd heard good things about Schofields but they're having severe growing pains. They used to be a good club but have turned into another sausage factory as of late. Some of the instructors there are good, others strut around waving their brand new grade 3 rating around like its made of gold. They have some ok planes, but the majority are overworked and undermaintained. Don't believe me? In the past month, I've heard both their arrows on the radio 7 times at YSBK with gear troubles.
If you can get a good instructor there (and there are some), then go for it. However if you're not just a little pushy, expect to end up at the back of a line that never ends struggling to find bookings and airworthy planes.
I've only done a little bit of training at whitworths but have thoroughly enjoyed it so far. The instructors there are knowledgeable and experienced and always go out of their way to answer questions
If you're looking for quality training and happy to move around, I'd steer clear of bankstown. While there are exceptions, the majority of schools at Bankstown are focused primarily on maximising throughput and profit rather than looking out for the student. The majority of instructors at Bankstown are just counting the hours until they can get the hell out of instructing and into a jet job with minimal or no experience whatsoever outside of instructing (ie they've gone straight from their CPL -> NVFR -> I.R.).
Find a school where the instructors actually want to be there and instructing. Have a look at the condition of their planes. Are they looked after and clean or tidy and falling apart. Make sure their instructor(s) have a broad background. While it's always going to be the case that there are instructors out there with 200 hours (blind leading the blind), there should also be experienced instructors there to supervise. Have a look at their booking sheet and see how full they are (can be good or bad obviously).
Have a look at where they get their maintenance done (whether it's "in house" or not). This can be an advantage as you can see the aeroplane "naked" and not only learn more about the machine you're flying, but also ask the mechanics about anything.
What sort of connections do they have? Will they be of any use in getting your first job? Again, be careful what they say to you here. Best to speak to past students.
What is the pass rate and waiting time on their CPL flight tests? Is the CFI a hands on bloke or someone who just comes in every now and again to have a look at things and sign some paper.
If you can, try and spend at least a day at a prospective school, watch how they go about it, and talk to current students. All other things being equal an Instructor who has industry experience and a grade 1 rating will be better and worth paying more for.
There are thousands of questions that you can ask, but the main thing is to be comfortable with the surroundings. Are the instructors and staff friendly, happy and easy to get along with? Nothing worse than having to sit in with a bloke who is **** all the time and doing more bitching about his lot in life than teaching you to fly...............
The best thing to do is after you've narrowed it down to 3 schools go for a TIF with each one.
Take careful note of how they welcomed you, gave you a suitable briefing, gave you much of the stick time, debriefed you, and whether you felt you wanted to train there.
Don't make the decision until after the third flight. Yeah, it will cost you extra for those 2 flights which didn't corrugate your iron, but you will be happier in the end.
Good luck, wherever you end up choosing.
I'd heard good things about Schofields but they're having severe growing pains. They used to be a good club but have turned into another sausage factory as of late. Some of the instructors there are good, others strut around waving their brand new grade 3 rating around like its made of gold. They have some ok planes, but the majority are overworked and undermaintained. Don't believe me? In the past month, I've heard both their arrows on the radio 7 times at YSBK with gear troubles.
If you can get a good instructor there (and there are some), then go for it. However if you're not just a little pushy, expect to end up at the back of a line that never ends struggling to find bookings and airworthy planes.
I've only done a little bit of training at whitworths but have thoroughly enjoyed it so far. The instructors there are knowledgeable and experienced and always go out of their way to answer questions
If you're looking for quality training and happy to move around, I'd steer clear of bankstown. While there are exceptions, the majority of schools at Bankstown are focused primarily on maximising throughput and profit rather than looking out for the student. The majority of instructors at Bankstown are just counting the hours until they can get the hell out of instructing and into a jet job with minimal or no experience whatsoever outside of instructing (ie they've gone straight from their CPL -> NVFR -> I.R.).
Find a school where the instructors actually want to be there and instructing. Have a look at the condition of their planes. Are they looked after and clean or tidy and falling apart. Make sure their instructor(s) have a broad background. While it's always going to be the case that there are instructors out there with 200 hours (blind leading the blind), there should also be experienced instructors there to supervise. Have a look at their booking sheet and see how full they are (can be good or bad obviously).
Have a look at where they get their maintenance done (whether it's "in house" or not). This can be an advantage as you can see the aeroplane "naked" and not only learn more about the machine you're flying, but also ask the mechanics about anything.
What sort of connections do they have? Will they be of any use in getting your first job? Again, be careful what they say to you here. Best to speak to past students.
What is the pass rate and waiting time on their CPL flight tests? Is the CFI a hands on bloke or someone who just comes in every now and again to have a look at things and sign some paper.
If you can, try and spend at least a day at a prospective school, watch how they go about it, and talk to current students. All other things being equal an Instructor who has industry experience and a grade 1 rating will be better and worth paying more for.
There are thousands of questions that you can ask, but the main thing is to be comfortable with the surroundings. Are the instructors and staff friendly, happy and easy to get along with? Nothing worse than having to sit in with a bloke who is **** all the time and doing more bitching about his lot in life than teaching you to fly...............
The best thing to do is after you've narrowed it down to 3 schools go for a TIF with each one.
Take careful note of how they welcomed you, gave you a suitable briefing, gave you much of the stick time, debriefed you, and whether you felt you wanted to train there.
Don't make the decision until after the third flight. Yeah, it will cost you extra for those 2 flights which didn't corrugate your iron, but you will be happier in the end.
Good luck, wherever you end up choosing.