Merged: Qantas Shorthaul Cabin Crew EBA
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Merged: Qantas Shorthaul Cabin Crew EBA
Qantas shorthaul FA's are currently being asked to complete surveys from the FAAA with regard to our forthcoming EBA negotiations.
I am interested as to what my colleagues are saying/thinking about our next EBA. I am particularly interested in everyones thoughts on the questions regarding changes to seniority. Does anyone know what the agenda is there?
I am interested as to what my colleagues are saying/thinking about our next EBA. I am particularly interested in everyones thoughts on the questions regarding changes to seniority. Does anyone know what the agenda is there?
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The Usual Trolls
Wait til Veronica Pattystacker and their siblings get hold of this thread.
There will be carnage.
Their sole purpose is to disrupt any logical and intelligent discussion regarding CC of any persuasion.
Please dont respond to these swine or this thread too will go the way of the DoDo
There will be carnage.
Their sole purpose is to disrupt any logical and intelligent discussion regarding CC of any persuasion.
Please dont respond to these swine or this thread too will go the way of the DoDo
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I think one of the agenda items is reserve line rotation for all ranks. I think that there will also be the challeges of competing with Team JetStar pay rates on domestic routes.
I think that FWA is not a happening thing and the Company will want changes to that too. The whole MAM thing has run its course and i think that they will want to deal with that "in House" rather than through the curent outsourced processes, and perhaps offer full time employment to the MAM crew through a "QCCA" type of vehicle.
I think that FWA is not a happening thing and the Company will want changes to that too. The whole MAM thing has run its course and i think that they will want to deal with that "in House" rather than through the curent outsourced processes, and perhaps offer full time employment to the MAM crew through a "QCCA" type of vehicle.
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Is the rumour true that Darth has told S/H that they have to accept team J* pay and hours or he will start up a S/H base in Neu Zeeland and put them up in F1 pubs when working in OZ....
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Call Button.....I was under the impression that J* or maybe it was J* International worked longer hours than QCCA.
I imagine that it is a little like comparing Apples and Oranges as their awards might be set up differently.
I imagine that it is a little like comparing Apples and Oranges as their awards might be set up differently.
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Limited Response
Judging by the small number of responses over a reasonable time frame,nobody seems to care about the domestic EBA.
There is not much left for managment to glean.Squirrel caging may be something that is being considerd by junior crew but certainly not by the senior sisters
There is not much left for managment to glean.Squirrel caging may be something that is being considerd by junior crew but certainly not by the senior sisters
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It looks like S/H crew here like Veronica & friends don't want to talk about it but it'll come out sooner or later.
They might come up with something original like team S/H.I don't know how their seniority system works but you can bet that the bee hive girls want it and the company doesn't.
Where that leaves them is anyones guess but if they give any more away it will most probably be a D scale.
This is where the new crew pay for their jobs and pass a collection plate around during the flights to support themselves.
How much lower can the company get crew pay and conditions?
They might come up with something original like team S/H.I don't know how their seniority system works but you can bet that the bee hive girls want it and the company doesn't.
Where that leaves them is anyones guess but if they give any more away it will most probably be a D scale.
This is where the new crew pay for their jobs and pass a collection plate around during the flights to support themselves.
How much lower can the company get crew pay and conditions?
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Senority is always going to be an issue, QCCA short haul would not be out of the questions I am sure or a vehicle of some similar design. As for the Team Jetstar comparison well thats like saying the company would have put all long haul crew on Jetconnect pay and conditions that would never happen nor would short haul being put on Team Jetstar terms and conditions.
The point of interest for me was the survey questions in regard to regional flying. Now that makes me think some serious terms and conditions will be eroded to protect or even increase the volume of regional flying.
The point of interest for me was the survey questions in regard to regional flying. Now that makes me think some serious terms and conditions will be eroded to protect or even increase the volume of regional flying.
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Wow, another thread of handbag swinging. No wonder you lot are in trouble, all you do is seem to want to bash each other on here. Mostly it appears to outsiders the majority of this is QF longhaul crew bashing short haul.
Given the posts so far, the majority of which seem to be Longhaul crew, how long before this degenerates into another bitchfest?
Ever wondered why you lot get banned and moved so often???
Grow up and get a life.
Given the posts so far, the majority of which seem to be Longhaul crew, how long before this degenerates into another bitchfest?
Ever wondered why you lot get banned and moved so often???
Grow up and get a life.
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Crusty Demon,
I don't know where you found any disagreement on this thread or are you trying to start one?
You might have a short term memory problem but in the D & G section the threads are about aviation in Australia.That means everyone involved and not just pilots.
However,the basis of this thread is about the company trying to lower once again pay and conditions of crew this time in relation to the S/H EBA negotiations.
Posted by Crusty Demon in relation to the differences of opinion between mainline pilots and J* pilots
It look like as though you agree with us 
I don't know where you found any disagreement on this thread or are you trying to start one?
You might have a short term memory problem but in the D & G section the threads are about aviation in Australia.That means everyone involved and not just pilots.
However,the basis of this thread is about the company trying to lower once again pay and conditions of crew this time in relation to the S/H EBA negotiations.
Posted by Crusty Demon in relation to the differences of opinion between mainline pilots and J* pilots
Until everybody in this country unites, no matter how painful the process is, the competition among ourselves will lead to much more pain through the course of most of our careers.
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London Base
I know this is getting off the topic a bit, but the company is inviting shorthaul crew (and probably longhaul too) to apply for a London basing. These positions will commence Jan 09 and be for a minimum of 2 years. I know we all thought that the London base may close, but obviously this is not the case!!
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I know we all thought that the London base may close, but obviously this is not the case!!
First,they might be having trouble keeping people in QFUK or
There will be too many S/H crew and it saves GD a VR payout for everyone from S/H who goes over.
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Domestic(sic)Regional Flying?
There isnt enough regional flying left for the domestics to quibble about.What there is available they dont want.Give it all back.
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SH to LH transfers
They have just opened up transfers from SH to LH.
Does anyone have any idea about the number of transfers that they are looking at ?
I was always under the impression that transfers are actioned on a one for one basis.
Does anyone have any idea about the number of transfers that they are looking at ?
I was always under the impression that transfers are actioned on a one for one basis.
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pommy pound has lost 15% against oz$, why would the base close down?
anyone ever ask 'why don't we have one union?'
at least a unified strategy would stop the divide and conquer af management.
will this happen while DW runs short haul?
will this happen while MM runs long haul?
maybe a new sec. is needed longhaul...is that 747 i hear coming??
anyone ever ask 'why don't we have one union?'
at least a unified strategy would stop the divide and conquer af management.
will this happen while DW runs short haul?
will this happen while MM runs long haul?
maybe a new sec. is needed longhaul...is that 747 i hear coming??
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The unification of associations was tried 10 years ago.It didnt work largely due to the recalcitrance of the domestics.
Comparing DW to MM is like comparing Mugabe to Mother Teresa.
MM has no other agenda other than to look after the interests of his flock.
DWs agenda is to look after DW.
LH does not need a new secretary.This buffoon PS stands a snowballs chance on Saturn
The sound of a 787 approaching is music to LH ears.
Transfers are indeed one for one.Who in their right mind transfer to domestic flying while the EBA is being negotiated?You would have a choice of redundancy or LHR....which is really no chance/choice at all
Comparing DW to MM is like comparing Mugabe to Mother Teresa.
MM has no other agenda other than to look after the interests of his flock.
DWs agenda is to look after DW.
LH does not need a new secretary.This buffoon PS stands a snowballs chance on Saturn
The sound of a 787 approaching is music to LH ears.
Transfers are indeed one for one.Who in their right mind transfer to domestic flying while the EBA is being negotiated?You would have a choice of redundancy or LHR....which is really no chance/choice at all