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there are 32 transfers to be done from sh to lh in 2 schools before the end of June. SH CSMs who are on the transfer lists to transfer in catergory will be given the oppotunity to transfer over if they are in the top 32
this is from the union
many sh fas put their name on the transfer list because they enjoyed the regional flying so they want to continue to do that type of flying
some sh CSMs feel that they should be given the opportunity to transfer over in catergory as they have been doing the regional flying anyway and have experience rather than promote QCCA to the position
this is from the union
many sh fas put their name on the transfer list because they enjoyed the regional flying so they want to continue to do that type of flying
some sh CSMs feel that they should be given the opportunity to transfer over in catergory as they have been doing the regional flying anyway and have experience rather than promote QCCA to the position
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this is from the union
sorry boys and girls in s/h but this is like getting in the wrong line at the bank.you were in the wrong line so you will have to wait for your turn.
there are a lot of l/h crew who have waited for a chance to go for the jacket and its not fair to them if someone else trys to jump to the head of the queue.
I reckon there would be a riot it was the other way around.be patient and wait for your turn.
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There is a 4 page SH to LH Divisional Transfer question and answer document on webcentral.
Can someone please tell me why the standard daily traveling allowance (DTA) for males is $46.20, but for females is only $44.64?
Can someone please tell me why the standard daily traveling allowance (DTA) for males is $46.20, but for females is only $44.64?
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i agree
with roaming s/h has not earned the right to tranfer in category. too many of our l/h guys have waited long enough for promotions. some junior guys may want to go to s/h but funny enough too many senior ones want to come accross from s/h. if they union is stupied enough to ignore the wishes of its members good luck. the next election isn't too far away. a little reminder to our union guys here go out and canvass members for their opinion. its pretty clear cut as i found out last night over drinks here accross the pacific.
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the next FAAA election is 4 years away. But the FAAA LH has made its point clear several times so lets move on. Transfers in category are only on a mutual swap basis.
As for the SDTA being different for females and men. It's because female crew are supplied with Panty Hose and males purchase their own socks.
Dont stress about SH CSMs coming over ....the LH FAAA will NEVER agree to it. Now if the company decided to do it anyways against the wishes of the LH FAAA and its members i am sure there would be a legal challenge to that .......
As for the SDTA being different for females and men. It's because female crew are supplied with Panty Hose and males purchase their own socks.
Dont stress about SH CSMs coming over ....the LH FAAA will NEVER agree to it. Now if the company decided to do it anyways against the wishes of the LH FAAA and its members i am sure there would be a legal challenge to that .......
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HMMM - Pruzness
Just to clarify.....
Patty Stacker is a Mass Meat cooking device used by McDonalds.
Patty Stacker is also a FANTASTIC Drag Queen Name.
Female I am Not
Homophobe I am not. If I was my boyfriend might have objections to it.
Patty Stacker is a Mass Meat cooking device used by McDonalds.
Patty Stacker is also a FANTASTIC Drag Queen Name.
Female I am Not
Homophobe I am not. If I was my boyfriend might have objections to it.
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Hysteria NORMAL thanks Peg
Hysteria NORMAL
Ok got the mail on this
Maybe the transfer doc needs a update because it doesn't read that way.
FYI next union company get together, note please amend misleading reference to s/h csm transfer.
Ok got the mail on this
Maybe the transfer doc needs a update because it doesn't read that way.
FYI next union company get together, note please amend misleading reference to s/h csm transfer.
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Imagine
If there were no off shore bases.
No domestics
No trolls
We were all on the page.
We were valued by our employer
We were given the tools/resources to do our job properly
Dixon had a heart attack in the next 15 minutes......
Yes Yes I know....
No domestics
No trolls
We were all on the page.
We were valued by our employer
We were given the tools/resources to do our job properly
Dixon had a heart attack in the next 15 minutes......
Yes Yes I know....
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Sounds like Disneyland where everything is rosy.But back on dry land you understand that things cannot go backwards.
With GD,personally I don't care for the fella and if he left to join greenpeace and stop the whale hunting I could not be happier.
But I don't wish him or anyone bad health let alone a heart attack.If you have ever known someone close who has had one you will know what I mean
As far as being valued by our employer.
Yeah well one of these days I might win lotto but I doubt it
With GD,personally I don't care for the fella and if he left to join greenpeace and stop the whale hunting I could not be happier.
But I don't wish him or anyone bad health let alone a heart attack.If you have ever known someone close who has had one you will know what I mean
As far as being valued by our employer.
Yeah well one of these days I might win lotto but I doubt it
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Ridiculous Figure
Pegasus 747, or anyone else, are you able to shed some light as to how the company and the SH union plucked a random figure of "32" from their posterior opening, considering the fact that there are over 300 names on the transfer list and that transfers have not been actioned in years?
Yes....I am dying to get out of biscuit chucking and away from the biscuit chucking Beehives.
Yes....I am dying to get out of biscuit chucking and away from the biscuit chucking Beehives.
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Domestos,I was trying to work out what BCB stood for.
I always thought they just had a fetish for doilies!
It looks like the senior girls/hive union is going ahead with plans again without asking anyone else what they think of the arrangements.
Have you seen anything in writing from the company or is this just another lot of buzzing and smoke signals from the beehive?
I don't know about the number 32 but maybe it is the number of csms that want to come across or maybe it's the number of cappacino's they drink each day in the office.
I always thought they just had a fetish for doilies!
It looks like the senior girls/hive union is going ahead with plans again without asking anyone else what they think of the arrangements.
Have you seen anything in writing from the company or is this just another lot of buzzing and smoke signals from the beehive?
I don't know about the number 32 but maybe it is the number of csms that want to come across or maybe it's the number of cappacino's they drink each day in the office.
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Yeah, 32 is the official number quoted by the Beehive Union...I get my union memos delivered to my phone straight away before they even get printed off and put in mailboxes. The strange thing is....even though the Beehive Union have told us in writing that it is 32......neither the company nor the LH Union have verified this in writing themselves.....eg. the DCIS screens mention transfers will be actioned but the company itself have not specifically stated HOW MANY will transfer.....which leads me to think that the company will dangle this carrot in front of us.
Where's my Mortein insect spray??????? God I can't wait to get to LH....
Where's my Mortein insect spray??????? God I can't wait to get to LH....
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The problem with the SH union is that it is weak. I am so ashamed to be a member of this union when I see how strong the LH union is. The SH union is lead by certain individual CSMs who do not necessarily have the membership's needs at heart. Whenever the company requires certain EBA provisions to be broken or bent, the SH Union (ala CSMs who are keen on feathering their own caps) are quick at dishing out dispensations left right and centre. There is definitely a conflict of interest happening here. I doubt very much the SH union will be able to gather support on a united front for the next EBA given the fact that they have piked on us so many times and we have lost faith in them to defend our rights.
I wish we had the know how and the funding like you guys and gals at LH do by hiring REAL people with REAL expertise to fight battles....
I wish we had the know how and the funding like you guys and gals at LH do by hiring REAL people with REAL expertise to fight battles....
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Transfer Numbers
The transfers are done on a one for one basis.
It is also dependant on manpower requirements.
Most if not all the transfers are going to Melbourne.
It is also dependant on manpower requirements.
Most if not all the transfers are going to Melbourne.
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Divisional Transfers
THe Company has always determined the number of Divisional Transfers based on operational requirements.
The SH EBA requires divisional transfers to occur each year. There is no number specified in the EBA however.
The LH EBA has no requirement for the company to have divisional transfers on a mandatory basis.
The number 32 is a number picked by the company given the operational needs of the business.
There will be 32 from SH to LH and an equal number from LH to SH. If there are no LH wishing to go to SH then the company will allow 32 to go from SH to LH.
CSMs will also be allowed to transfer in category but only in equal numbers and only from mel to mel or sydney to sydney or brisbane to Brisbane. If there is no CSM in LH wishing to TRansfer to SH then there will be no CSM transfers at all.
Hope this clears it up. My understanding is the the LH FAAA concluded discussions today and that a newsletter to members will be issued tommorrow to Lh members outlining the above but with probably a few more details than i am privy too
The SH EBA requires divisional transfers to occur each year. There is no number specified in the EBA however.
The LH EBA has no requirement for the company to have divisional transfers on a mandatory basis.
The number 32 is a number picked by the company given the operational needs of the business.
There will be 32 from SH to LH and an equal number from LH to SH. If there are no LH wishing to go to SH then the company will allow 32 to go from SH to LH.
CSMs will also be allowed to transfer in category but only in equal numbers and only from mel to mel or sydney to sydney or brisbane to Brisbane. If there is no CSM in LH wishing to TRansfer to SH then there will be no CSM transfers at all.
Hope this clears it up. My understanding is the the LH FAAA concluded discussions today and that a newsletter to members will be issued tommorrow to Lh members outlining the above but with probably a few more details than i am privy too
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I'm waiting to laugh at what the company are gonna give us in return for all the things they will be stripping off SH....hmmm....me thinks they will entice us with PAID 2 years Paternity leave (oh whoopee); an extra muesli bar on our breakfast tray (yes please); a bonus URTI sick day per calendar year (oh thank you I needed that);......but if you ring and vote now, the company will even throw in a $500 Gloria Jeans meal break voucher and bonus International Currency man purse. Oh hold me back girls....