CPL AIR LAW - Purchase CAR's / CAO's? $$
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CPL AIR LAW - Purchase CAR's / CAO's? $$
Hi,
With the exam, it seems I will need to have the CAR / CAO's in the exam.
Should I buy these? I am not looking forward to it as they would an arm and a leg.
What is the go?
With the exam, it seems I will need to have the CAR / CAO's in the exam.
Should I buy these? I am not looking forward to it as they would an arm and a leg.
What is the go?
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You can also take in printed CAOs/CARs, but they have to be in separate, clearly marked folders (see notes on ASL site).
Buy a cheap monochrome laser printer (they retail for under 100 bucks incl. delivery on ebay) and print them out, that way you have a proper printer also when it comes to printing those resumes
As you probably don't need to keep your set up to date, you can save on the subscription, and if you ever to an instrument rating, just print them again, a toner cartridge costs between 40-70 bucks and prints at least 2000 pages..
Buy a cheap monochrome laser printer (they retail for under 100 bucks incl. delivery on ebay) and print them out, that way you have a proper printer also when it comes to printing those resumes
As you probably don't need to keep your set up to date, you can save on the subscription, and if you ever to an instrument rating, just print them again, a toner cartridge costs between 40-70 bucks and prints at least 2000 pages..
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Just watch out if you borrow them from your flying school you may find that they aren’t up to date and there are several pages missing!!! I remember when I did my CPL air law I borrowed the set from my flying school and the commonly used pages where the ones missing!!
It helps if you can study the subject with the CAR's and CAO's next to you. I know the set is quiet a few $$$$$$ but you will use them again if you go on and do IREX and ATPL's. Good Luck
It helps if you can study the subject with the CAR's and CAO's next to you. I know the set is quiet a few $$$$$$ but you will use them again if you go on and do IREX and ATPL's. Good Luck
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hi guys what i did was to save money i bought.
Latest CAR in text only (no subscription) 79$ instead of 250$ with amendment service.
And i bought the CAO's with 12 month amendments for 109...
Latest CAR in text only (no subscription) 79$ instead of 250$ with amendment service.
And i bought the CAO's with 12 month amendments for 109...
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yeah thats a damn good idea too.... if only they allowed you to use pdf viewers in exams! do a search and have an answer in 5 seconds and it weighs 200grams instead of 20kg!!!
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I sat the exam yesterday with printed copies so as PlankBender said this actually does work but beware the ASL guidelines.
I managed to use my work printer to print out all 1400+ pages and then just hole punched them.
If you can beg borrow or steal your way into an office and print them out it certainly will save some cash. If only CASA would put the CAO's into 1 consolidated pdf instead of making us download a bunch of pdfs......makes you think they want us to purchase them.
I managed to use my work printer to print out all 1400+ pages and then just hole punched them.
If you can beg borrow or steal your way into an office and print them out it certainly will save some cash. If only CASA would put the CAO's into 1 consolidated pdf instead of making us download a bunch of pdfs......makes you think they want us to purchase them.
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I purchased them, and was glad that I did (the copies available for borrowing from the flying school weren't in fantastic nick).
I also suggest you 'tag' key pages with labelled, coloured plastic tags (or even thin sections of post-it notes). Makes finding the old chestnuts a heck of a lot quicker and easier during the exam.
I also suggest you 'tag' key pages with labelled, coloured plastic tags (or even thin sections of post-it notes). Makes finding the old chestnuts a heck of a lot quicker and easier during the exam.
Before you go and spend the money, standby......
There's a website from which you can download all of the CAR, CAO and Regs but I don't have the link with me at the moment (I'm in dial-up land
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I'll post it tomorrow
There's a website from which you can download all of the CAR, CAO and Regs but I don't have the link with me at the moment (I'm in dial-up land
)I'll post it tomorrow
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I actually went to office works today to buy post its!
I was a bit worried the asl women would ask me to pull out all my post-its in my docs for quick refs.
They definitely will help me in the exam... All about TIME!
I was a bit worried the asl women would ask me to pull out all my post-its in my docs for quick refs.
They definitely will help me in the exam... All about TIME!
Air Navigation Regulations 1947
CAR 1988 (five PDFs)
CASR 1998 (four PDFs)
I'd love to know where I can get the CAOs in one easy place, too...
CAR 1988 (five PDFs)
CASR 1998 (four PDFs)
I'd love to know where I can get the CAOs in one easy place, too...
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http://www.casa.gov.au/rules/1998casr/pdf/all1998.pdf
This link gives you one file with all the CASR 1998 in it.
http://www.casa.gov.au/download/act_regs/1988.pdf
This link give you one file with all the CAR 1988 in it.
http://www.casa.gov.au/rules/orders/index.htm
This link will give you each CAO with a heap of downloads. I dont know if anyone has a better one for the CAO's. By the way CASA says "Civil Aviation Orders support the CARs 1988. They will be progressively removed as we move to the CASRs 1998." What ever that means.
Hope they help.
This link gives you one file with all the CASR 1998 in it.
http://www.casa.gov.au/download/act_regs/1988.pdf
This link give you one file with all the CAR 1988 in it.
http://www.casa.gov.au/rules/orders/index.htm
This link will give you each CAO with a heap of downloads. I dont know if anyone has a better one for the CAO's. By the way CASA says "Civil Aviation Orders support the CARs 1988. They will be progressively removed as we move to the CASRs 1998." What ever that means.
Hope they help.
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From what I've heard this is the deal. Printed copies of documents are allowed in ASL exams so long as they are bound in some way. All documents may be highlighted and tagged but you're not allowed to have notes written on the documents. Colour coding tags makes it easier to find stuff as well (eg met related airlaw with a blue tag, radios/navaids with red etc) this made my IREX heaps easier, however I used Jepps and not Airservices documents.
Free copies of most if not all documents can be downloaded from the casa web page or the airservices australia webpage in the pilot section. This includes the AIP, DAP (East) & DAP (West) etc. They are in bits and pieces so it could take some time to get all the files downloaded, but they do update them on the webpages. Be aware that you download the correct set as they do post up the upcoming revisions in advance, and I'm assuming if you get a question wrong they would treat it as if you had out of date references.
Cheers
Free copies of most if not all documents can be downloaded from the casa web page or the airservices australia webpage in the pilot section. This includes the AIP, DAP (East) & DAP (West) etc. They are in bits and pieces so it could take some time to get all the files downloaded, but they do update them on the webpages. Be aware that you download the correct set as they do post up the upcoming revisions in advance, and I'm assuming if you get a question wrong they would treat it as if you had out of date references.
Cheers
Here is a Zip file containing ALL the CAR, CASR, and all the CAOs available on CASA's website, in one, easy download.
Note that this is just what Ive collated myself, and I bear no responsibility for ensuring they are up to date.
They're up to date as of today, but anything that changes from today onwards, you'll need to be on top of yourself.
All the CAR, CASR, and CAO
Enjoy!
Note that this is just what Ive collated myself, and I bear no responsibility for ensuring they are up to date.
They're up to date as of today, but anything that changes from today onwards, you'll need to be on top of yourself.
All the CAR, CASR, and CAO
Enjoy!
Thank you...