Duchess v Twin Star for MECIR
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Why can't you leave it out in the sun? Care to have a crack at the answer?
Or are you peddling an unsubstantiated aviation myth.
As for sound being a determining factor for which aircraft I would choose.
Easy the quietest one.
I can't really get too excited about the sound of a Lycoming or Continental although an idling IO 520 is nice, and a smooth 540 to, as for a small bore Lyc/Cont. they don't even prick my ears (eg Duchess).
But then a few thousand hours behind a 1340/1820 will do that to you.
Suggest you keep well out of ear shot of these lest you mess your self in public.
Even a little 985 could have you discharging like a tube of toothpaste hit by a rubber mallet.
Why can't you leave it out in the sun? Care to have a crack at the answer?
Or are you peddling an unsubstantiated aviation myth.
As for sound being a determining factor for which aircraft I would choose.
Easy the quietest one.
I can't really get too excited about the sound of a Lycoming or Continental although an idling IO 520 is nice, and a smooth 540 to, as for a small bore Lyc/Cont. they don't even prick my ears (eg Duchess).
But then a few thousand hours behind a 1340/1820 will do that to you.
Suggest you keep well out of ear shot of these lest you mess your self in public.
Even a little 985 could have you discharging like a tube of toothpaste hit by a rubber mallet.
Do you HAVE to do it at FTA in Adelaide? As coastjet at Port Macquarie offer the best bang for your buck Baron's MECIR training package I have seen around, plus they have accommodation for you to stay at if required (FOC).
12k will get you you MECIR, I think add about another 1k if you ILS attached to it (as you have to Nav further to get to an ILS to demonstrate an approach). I think that's based on already having a multi endorsement.
I'm heading down there shortly to fill a few gaps and finish off my MECIR and they were all to happy to help.
Just a thought.
12k will get you you MECIR, I think add about another 1k if you ILS attached to it (as you have to Nav further to get to an ILS to demonstrate an approach). I think that's based on already having a multi endorsement.
I'm heading down there shortly to fill a few gaps and finish off my MECIR and they were all to happy to help.
Just a thought.
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Second vote on Coastjet over FTA.
Did all my training in Adelaide, but Coastjet (or JAS as it was then) was well worth the drive over what was available for CIR/ME training at the time.
If you happen to stay in GA for a while, a Baron endorsement is far more useful than a Duchess or Twin Star... they're just far more common
Did all my training in Adelaide, but Coastjet (or JAS as it was then) was well worth the drive over what was available for CIR/ME training at the time.
If you happen to stay in GA for a while, a Baron endorsement is far more useful than a Duchess or Twin Star... they're just far more common
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sounds good guys but I have a wife and two kids, mortgage, working p/t to pay bills...yah da yah da
Air South do the Baron MECIR but booked out and expensive.
Regards, PA
Air South do the Baron MECIR but booked out and expensive.
Regards, PA
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If i were in your situation i would take them both up for an hours trial and see which 'feels' right for you. I'd love to fly the Duchess as its a classic, but the Diamond represents the future IMO.
You never know till you 'ave a go.
You never know till you 'ave a go
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I would (and will) do my twin in a Baron (or similar), you can learn a computer any old time, but I think the concepts you learn in steam will serve you well. The new systems are designed to make flying easier... monkeys will be trained for it in the coming years. If you want to learn the glass, isn't there a sim you can download from Garmin?
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I'm not so sure that a modern glass system is inherently an easier option to learn than conventional steam.
Sure, things like auto feather and FADEC make engine management a less time consuming task, and hence dumb down the operation to an extent.
But as for the radio/Nav system which at the end of the day is what IFR training is focused on, I'm not sure that conventional ADF/VOR/ILS/DME are that hard to tune and identify. Compared to getting your head around a system where finding a function buried in a menu system which has to be found and then set up to display with a multitude of optional functions.
Having spoken with a few pilots who have transitioned onto the G1000 they all have a few fumbles along the way whilst getting used to finding the various functions.
Sure, things like auto feather and FADEC make engine management a less time consuming task, and hence dumb down the operation to an extent.
But as for the radio/Nav system which at the end of the day is what IFR training is focused on, I'm not sure that conventional ADF/VOR/ILS/DME are that hard to tune and identify. Compared to getting your head around a system where finding a function buried in a menu system which has to be found and then set up to display with a multitude of optional functions.
Having spoken with a few pilots who have transitioned onto the G1000 they all have a few fumbles along the way whilst getting used to finding the various functions.
