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Old 12th Feb 2008, 11:06
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I've also been experiencing the joys of QLD drought conditions recently.....cleans the bugs off a treat.

Anyone care to expand on the cooling implications?


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Miraz, you are allways cool in a Cessna
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 11:13
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Maybe - but at least you can stay relatively dry as you lock up....
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 11:28
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ClearedtoEnter,

All you had to do with the Mini was get an ice cream container (preferably one that had no ice cream in it), cut some slots for the plug leads, slap it over the dizzy and you were right. It worked so well on the Morris models that Leyland made it a standard part when they took over the marque.

Nice lot of rain you lot are getting. How much of that is likely to find its way into Lake Eyre? I need an excuse for an outback trip this year.

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Old 12th Feb 2008, 21:24
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Gee 'miraz' those pix, & to think that's a SE toy plane yr in with that much crap around ! With wx like that I would think that SE planes would go hide even without their pilots !

Now come on Dr, what short of words are we? I rely on yr experience to make me feel it was worth all those times I wished I wasn't there IE: in a SE in somewhat marginal wx

how many hrs do you do in yr Bo per annum Dr?

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Old 12th Feb 2008, 23:27
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Serious question: what about propeller erosion? Do all those drops hitting at high speed cause higher than usual wear on the prop?
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 23:39
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Does flying in a torrential downpour, ie really heavy rain, pose any threat to a Lycoming/Continental engine?
Short answer as stated by many other posters here is no, however take a look at what it does to your prop!
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 23:46
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hey 'HH' I wouldn't say categorically 'NO" that rain won't effect a piston engine. My previous post shows otherwise. I always treat heavy wx with caution no matter what i'm flying!
Indirectly the heavy rain may effect the eng by way of impact after loosing situational awareness & spiralling because of the heavy rain, but that's stretching a bit I guess but not if yr unlucky enough to be in that hypothetical case in the first place!

Now what's happening up there in ratrace land HH?

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Old 12th Feb 2008, 23:49
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Wal, always good to know you are thinking of me. You do have a bit of a thing about SE IFR don't you? We have done this before - its all about managing risk!

Dr

PS: In 2007 I did about 180 hrs in the FTDK and about 20 hrs in a C210 when the Bo was having some work done. The way 2008 has started out I will do around 200 hrs again.
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Old 13th Feb 2008, 00:02
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The weather in fact got worse. The turbulence increased with noise of the continuous rain hammering on the airframe. The cockpit overhead emergency escape hatch leaked with cold water dribbling on both of us making life unpleasant. As the tempo increased, it became necessary to throttle back reducing the turbulence but by dong so, the engine cylinder-head temperature also decreased to near minimum. Fearing cracked cylinders if these conditions continued, it became necessary to lower the undercarriage and maintain a higher power setting, keeping the temps within the normal range. Phew! Gear down, power on, gear up power reduced. This went on for quite some time as it was too late to turn back to Madang and we continued on to Rabaul routing over Hoskins on the way.

The weather and turbulence lasted over two and one half hours only abating as we neared Rabaul with radio static prohibiting any HF communications.


and...


After our start-up for departure, we experienced massive rough running of both engines with high magneto drop. Both engine ignition harnesses were full of water.

Due to the weather deteriorating further, no aircraft could get into Hoskins for one and a half days and we were stuck there clad in damp clothes, with no way of drying them. With the hotel short of food, we lived on canned bully beef, kau kau and rice.



THATS rain
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...........ahh Dr am just trying to look after yr welfare:-)

So what's yr thoughts on the C210 compared to the Bo?
thread drift I know but we can keep it between ourselves

C210 better plane for pax, easier to get in & out of, well for the first 4 anyway, faster, well the ones that I have flown compared to the Bo's.
Better for sightseeing & better for shade under the wing when at BDV for eg. Other than that the C210 is like a holden, common as mud & worth little!

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p.s........Just saw VH-GPA taxi past, looks like an old V35 red & beige, know of it Dr?
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Old 13th Feb 2008, 01:17
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Wally, if its my thread am I allowed to drift it?

Don't get me wrong - I like 210's and think its a tragedy that Cessna haven't started making them again. Your view is pretty much correct, except for the speed thing maybe.

A fair comparison would be the A36 with the C210, and I have only about 10 hrs in the A36 compared with "lost count" in the C210.

V35B vs C210 = Ferrari vs Kingswood S/Wagon(albeit a reasonably quick Kingswood!)

Dr
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Old 13th Feb 2008, 01:45
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.....yes Dr drift all ya like mate,

Agree with the quality aspect of the two, the Cessna just feels cheap, they always have but I guess the masses always seem to buy cheap like Holdens etc.
One thing I never liked about the C210 was the awful low turb speed, 119kts I think it was, that's sad
And I guess yr twin of choice is?.........twin Bo:-)

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Old 13th Feb 2008, 01:49
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320 feet

Thats the Cairns 15 ILS.

Interesting to hear "100 above" and the smart callouts etc.
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Old 13th Feb 2008, 02:12
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Now let me see...

Lotta years ago now, was it the left alternator, or was it the right on a Cheiftain? The ungarded one in any case. Heard a few rookies become slightly stressed when it failed during heavy rain.

Once the belt dried out, all was rosey.

FTD. Gotta agree with the analogy. S35. Sweetest little single on the planet. Snaked a bit in turbulance, and oh those Beech ergonomics! but a delight to fly.
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Old 13th Feb 2008, 03:20
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And I guess yr twin of choice is?.........twin Bo:-)
Wally, the pinnacle of my flying career was peddling an executive configured C402B around the wilds of N and NW Qld. I just loved that thing!

1 = C402
2 = Navajo
3 = Baron
4 = C310
5 = Aztec

That's all I am endorsed on. Choice for personal transportation - C414 ?

Dr
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Old 13th Feb 2008, 03:35
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Now what's happening up there in ratrace land HH?
People leaving for the airlines, new people joining, same old, same old really...
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.............yep same down here HH, the older ya get the less anyones cares Still it's comfy down here:-)

Dr Good choice. C414. I used to fly a real swish one once, even flew a few well known pollies around, now there's some stories !!

Krusty yr right about the Beech ergonomics, try an old DH-104 for ergo's !!!.............the thought in those days was, it's this big, now where is there a hole to put it ?.......oh yeah behind the pilots seat, plenty of space there for important stuff like these !

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Old 13th Feb 2008, 06:06
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Creamie and HH

Props and rain are not the best of friends.........even the metal props are not immune to it. Fibreglass coated timber ones are not immune to it either and less resiliant by a fair margin, then of course anything of a classic timber.......light shower at best!

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Old 13th Feb 2008, 06:35
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Hey Jaba, does the plastic dissolve if you get it wet?

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