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Old 13th Jan 2008, 00:27
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I've flown over a bit of Oz in the last 35 years! It is just a huge fascinating country, and I feel enormously privelaged to get a good look at it.

Below is the "snail trail" of the Forktailed Dr Killer for 2007.



As the original post was about a trip to Central Oz - here's a few thoughts.

1) There are places in the north of SA that look interesting - others in here will know more.
2) Coober Pedy - fascinating pimple on the butt of Oz
3) Lake Eyre - worth a look, especially if there is water going into it.
4) Birdsville and the Channel Country - ya gotta go there at least once for a look
5) Alice Springs - must visit. Across the Simpson Desert from Birdsville to Alice is a must do - once.
6) Ayres Rock - long way from anywhere but well worth the trip. I am hard to impress but "The Rock" is impressive. Horrendously expensive! Consider doing it as a day trip from Alice and get a hire car.
7) Tennant Ck - good for fuel and not much else
8) Tanami Desert - fascinating. Keep your eye out for the recently discovered Lake Forktailed Doctor Killer.
9) "Dig Tree" - on my list of "to do's" before I kark it.

Pilotolatino - suggest you stick to the latte scene!

Dr

PS: DF, make sure your mate from the US is well prepared for such a trip. While I have great faith in a well maintained lightie, if you go down in parts of Oz you are in real strife unless well prepared. I carry lots of water, emergency rations, fire making gear, warm clothing, 2 x EPIRBS, strobe light, sat phone.

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Old 13th Jan 2008, 06:31
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Outback Australia

Some years ago I bought a Cherokee six from Melbourne, and had to fly it back to Alice Springs. A young CPL holder had been looking for a job to get experience so I told him he could come along on the flight.
He flew it from Stawell to Mildura and he commented that flying "the outback" was not so hard. The next leg was to Liegh Creek, and he handled that OK. It was a hot (40 degree) summer day, with 8/8ths blue sky, and the aeroplane baked in the sun as we ate our lunch in the little terminal building. Taxi ing and takeoff was hot and unpleasant (normal) and the aeroplane did not want to climb. It was hot and turbulent. He continued to coax it (normal) and finally got to around 7000 feet where it was cooler. This was a long leg to Alice Springs. All was OK so I went to sleep for a while. When I awoke he immediately said "we are fuel critical. Where can we go for fuel?" There was nowhere, so I looked at the power and mixture settings, and the nav numbers, and we continued. We landed at Alice Springs with two hours fuel remaining. He then completed the paperwork thoroughly and correctly, took his gear and went.
I never saw him again. I don't think he wanted that job flying the outback any more.
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PS: DF, make sure your mate from the US is well prepared for such a trip. While I have great faith in a well maintained lightie, if you go down in parts of Oz you are in real strife unless well prepared. I carry lots of water, emergency rations, fire making gear, warm clothing, 2 x EPIRBS, strobe light, sat phone.
FTDK, all good sound advice! This won't be my friend's first trip out in those areas though.

DF.
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Dalhousie Springs, Old Andado, Curtin Springs, Kings Creek. From there to the Kimberly, back across the Top End, inc Kakadu, and back down via Mataranka and then across to Central Q.
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 12:35
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Leight Creek (is Rose still there? I watched her drag a PA-31 with her arm around the prop because it wasn't close enough to the fuel pump. Nice lady, wouldn't want to piss her off)
And you didn't offer to help???

And get his creeks in order too, eh Pete?
Absolutely!
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 22:19
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Pilotolatino, I'm a little confused...on the RFDS thread you write...

sure the miners/doctors/nurses earn maybe more than a driver...but, are they sitting at the pointy end looking out at that amazing scenery?
And then on this thread you write...

There's a whole lot of nothing in the middle of Oz. You'll be doing long legs with jacksh*t to see.
Hope you don't end up at Central Section.
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Old 14th Jan 2008, 00:49
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Don't forget Mungerannie! Beer, hot springs and plenty of laughs. Nice long, wide runway and even a concrete run-up pad!

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Don't forget Mungerannie! Beer, hot springs and plenty of laughs. Nice long, wide runway and even a concrete run-up pad!
That sure doesn't describe the Mungeranie I knew, When did they build the new airport?

I used to like Mungeranie, if you could time it right you could send all kinds of vehicles off the road and into the bush by making them think you were about to land on that road they were driving on.
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New strip has been there at least 4 years now. North of the closest sandhills near the Roadhouse/Pub.
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For the tourist pilots who can navigate - If you can handle the bumps and heat, fly about 1000' - 1500' agl, see a lot more that way.

Note, 500' agl is legal min, but you may be doing a bit of unwanted cattle mustering in places.
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Pilotolatino,

There were a few more than 8 people living in Leigh Creek when I was there yesterday, and how's it so hard to find. Damn place sticks out like the proverbials
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if you could time it right you could send all kinds of vehicles off the road and into the bush by making them think you were about to land on that road they were driving on.
Most of the pilots I flew with on the mail run used to try the same thing.

It's still the same strip Peter. About four years ago it had a lot of work done on it making it longer, a bit wider and a larger parking area.
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Anu updates to Mungerannie for a trip there in a couple of weeks.

I heard from the locals it is a bit "rough".

I wonder what their definition of rough is and how it compares to mine?

Anyone been there in the last couple of weeks?
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I can back up the story about 1c fuel at YCBP. Paid $0.06c/L there in July 2006 at the Shell bowser. The bloke in the Cirrus Sr22 after us was pretty pleased.
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FTDK. I haven't been to Tennant Creek, but I know Coober Pedy well. If you think CP is unattractive, you clearly haven't been to Andamooka or worse still Pimba.

Before this is sidetracked to a worst towns thread, Arkaroola is great and so is William Creek. Depending on where the guy starts, I wouldn't bother going as far North as Tennant Creek. There are heaps of really good, intersting places to go with less sitting in a PA28 in between. Its really easy for guys overseas to grossly underestimate the distances. And the task of flying over desert is a big adjustment for someone used to flying over populated areas. Wirraminna & Mt Ive stations have accomodation & station airstrips. Tibboburra is interesting (staying at the Family Hotel). If he ends up at Coober Pedy, I thinks its redeeming feature is Tom & Mary's Greek Tavern.

In between all of this is the Grand Hotel at Mildura if you want a break somewhere nice.

I agree that Curtin Springs is a great place to stop if your going to the rock, but I personally would go on an easier, shorter more relaxed flight to places where light aircraft offer a real advantage & take a kero burner to Alice.
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Old 1st Apr 2009, 11:40
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1) There are places in the north of SA that look interesting - others in here will know more.
Arkaroola I would thoroughly recommend!!! Doug Sprigg is a true gentleman!! What an amazing place it is... Took the dashing8 in there last year (to Balcanoona anyway) - did he and his crew look after us or what!!!!
 
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then fly over the Gorge to land at Tindal,
could try maud creek if you want a boat tour... just make sure your not heavy...
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It's still the same strip Peter. About four years ago it had a lot of work done on it making it longer, a bit wider and a larger parking area.
Sounds like they gave it some viagra.
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Some of the Outback places I've flown into AND visit a second time...........

Coober Pedy, Kings Creek Station, Rawnsley Park, Emma Gorge, El Questro, Jabiru, Drysdale River, Mt Hart Station, Broome, and best of all - Adeles Grove in FNQ .

The Kimberlies is my favorite destination.

Uluru is interesting but accommodation is a Rip-off IMHO
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Second that about Adels Grove!

Little Jab driver owns the joint! A must do if you are up that way! And a walk/paddle up the creek "Lawn Hill Gorge" is an absolute must.

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