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Old 30th Nov 2006, 03:46
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OH&S in Aviation

Does anyone have any idea where I can get hold of some good examples of OH & S manuals that are useful and pertinant to an air operator's purposes?

I am in the midst of trying to compose one, however with no formal OH & S training or experience it is proving a fruitless task.

The present manual in force which I am looking to replace is clearly not tailored for an aviation environment.

All help gratefully received, pm me if preferred.


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Old 30th Nov 2006, 08:19
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There are some resources at CASA on SAfety Management Systems.
http://www.casa.gov.au/sms/resources.htm
http://www.casa.gov.au/sms/guidance.htm

I may have something else, if I can find it I will PM you.
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why dont you ask one of your fellow staff?
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OH&S in Aviation is an oxymoron!
Flying is a dangerous business!
Once you get off the ground, your life is in danger!
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Fellow staff...

Disco,

Fellow staff, as in, the ones that get forgotten about??


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why dont you ask one of your fellow staff?
What was that Baggs?
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Children, behave.

I'm sure amigo was trying to have a serious thread for once.
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Aviation Safety Management Systems have been established and refined over the past 50+ yrs or so.

OH&S as we know it now has only "taken-off" within the last decade or thereabouts. It is backed up by significant Commonwealth and State legislation with quite harsh fines for non compliance. If you look closely you will find that OH&S systems are in fact "following" flight safety systems etc but under the guise that it is all new!! Bollocks!

If you are in an aviation company establish a flight (operational) Safety Management System to cover all operational safety. Guidelines etc are available from CASA and other sources.

OH&S then is a very different animal, tho' it does seem to eat the same food. Have a look at your State legislation requirements (not easy in some states) and then see what you have to do to comply. See what other companies similar to yours have done. Talk to your insurance company also.
You will need to report all injuries in the workplace, lost time injuries etc, often to the State within days of the event.

You will need forms etc and establish a policy that is signed off by the CEO who at the end of the day is responsible for both operational safety and OH&S.

The difference is that in operational safety, we do that to learn from accidents and incidents and to prevent a reoccurrence. With much of the State based OH&S non-compliance (such as having an accident) is considered guilty unless you can prove otherwise and the fine will follow. Speed camera mentality really... $$$$$ But maybe they have to do that to get many small firms to comply... one just gets caught up in the web these days.....

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If you're working for the usual GA outfit scenario I'd be throwing in the towel now, as far as OH & S rules go GA is basically breaks them all!! If you start looking at aircraft seats, noise, vibration, loading bags, sitting in confined spaces etc, and then tell the boss he's legally liable for it, you won't be a popular boy.

If you're talking a company with 19+ seat turbine eqipment, then you might have a fighting chance of coming up with something that could be implemented and be followed through on as at least then roles are delegated to other people (ie baggage handlers etc.)

Either way OH & S is a complete nightmare for anyone wanting to take it seriously.
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how did you get the job when you seem to know nothing about it ?
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Question

Originally Posted by Apophis
how did you get the job when you seem to know nothing about it ?
Did you know anything about maintaining aircraft before you started spinning spanners Apophis?
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Originally Posted by Apophis
how did you get the job when you seem to know nothing about it ?
Probably because a pilot will do it for free while a OH & S specialist will cost
$80 000 a year.
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Thanks

Thanks for the replies.

I don't neccessarily think it needs to be a system quite as in-depth as what the $80K per year guru would implement, cause that would entail basically discontinuing use of all old piston equipment for reasons that neville_nobody stated.

However, it is still surely possible to have some sort of system/plan in place that at least represents the company's acknowledgement of OH&S practices in the workplace, to a reasonable extent anyway without going overboard.

I do concur that it has potential to develop into a nightmare though, if taken too far beyond the company's best interest.

Time for some quotes.

how did you get the job when you seem to know nothing about it ?
I'm not entirely sure. But I can assure you that I'm taking it upon myself to find out something about it, since it has been tasked to me. Hence the existence of this thread. How did Geoff Dixon get his job? Just kidding.

Children, behave.

I'm sure amigo was trying to have a serious thread for once.
Thank you muchly for asserting this thread, Pseudonym! Frankly, some of these jokers, in particular that pesky Disco_air ought to be dealt with...with a wooden spoon!!


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Originally Posted by Continental-520
Thank you muchly for asserting this thread, Pseudonym! Frankly, some of these jokers, in particular that pesky Disco_air ought to be dealt with...with a wooden spoon!!
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i dont get it.....
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Amusement plus

Hahahahah! Well, I hereby declare we have one bewildered Disco_air!


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hahaha

get back to being bewildered about OH&S, 520

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Originally Posted by disco_air
i dont get it.....

All will become clear, in due course. Innit that right, 520?
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