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Old 20th Aug 2006, 15:01
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Aircraft Security Devices

I knew there was a reason why we had to have these things fitted to the aircraft we fly to protect ourselves and the general population at large.
And here it is.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...5198765&q=ADIZ
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Old 20th Aug 2006, 23:20
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LoL!
Remember that kid that flew a Cessna (152/172 not sure) into an office block? I think he took out 1 or 2 panes of glass and that was it. It didnt even go bang. Now a cement truck full of.....
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Old 20th Aug 2006, 23:44
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Errr, yes and no. A C150 with a 155mm round strapped into the right seat would make a considerable bang.

I love the video!
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90kts? Isn't that a tad optimistic?
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Worse with some of the hi tech explosives available a C150 or even ultralight is capable of delivering a devastating punch and I wont even go near the pilot case size nuclear devices available.

I thought 9/11 and the latest effort would have made it crystal clear these guys think way outside the square. Nothing is now implausible.
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Good grief Gaunty I would have expected a somewhat more measured response from you.

If society is going to completely wrap itself in cotton wool then they'll have to make every car, truck, aeroplane (of whatever size), boat and motor cycle illegal.

We might as well call it quites now and all take a lethal dose of some painless, instant poison.

If 'high tech' explosives are so easy to get hold of why do terrorists use 100s of gallons of fertiliser?

If brief case sized nuclear devices were truly possible/practicle, as opposed to (I suspect) the stuff of James Bond movies, they would have made an appearance by now. And any terrorist with the wit to actually build or obtain such a device, if they are even possible, would also have the wit to absolutely know that having set a city or two glowing the remaining population of said country would not only authorise it's Govt to respond in a completely overwhelming fashion they would demand it.

It amuses me no end that having worried our way through the cold war because the US and Russia had the capability to exterminate the entire planet several dozen times over we now are scared witless by a few terrorists.

Just how likely are the terrorists to actually win a war with the west if they actually push just a little too hard?

So far the west is tip toeing around trying it's best to be a little PC and 'surgical'...if push REALLY comes to shove and the west declares all out, no holds barred war I think you would find those that 'support' terrorists even if only slightly would all of a sudden grow a backbone and there would be nowhere they are welcome.

The west seems to have lots it's stomach for that style of war...but I would suggest all it will take for that to change would be one more WTC style attack.
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Old 21st Aug 2006, 05:58
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Nice cast Gaunty.
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Old 21st Aug 2006, 10:56
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terrorism in Australia??????? What a load of crap. never has and probably never will. the government is just knee jerking and wanting to be seen to be doing something.......... anything, at huge cost to the taxpayer.
Who in their right mind....... or even for that matter, their wrong mind would attempt to hijack an aircraft from YLEO???. Now the $110,ooo fence isnt going to stop them even in the highly unlikely event that it was going to happen. hell, they been trying to keep the roo's off the strip here forever, and it seems that a ****load of taxpayers money still can't do it. what chance do they have of stopping a person with an interest in getting in??????. Friggen none!!!!!
And the expensive little red card is going to help how????. once again I'll point out the fact that there has never been an Australian pilot ever involved in a terrorism incident on Australian soil, or in an Australian aircraft. and the stupid fences and stupid red card aint ever going to stop anyone if there was someone out there committed to a cause.
Waste, waste, waste and shame, shame, shame on you people that think it will.
It is totally ineffectual and unrequired.
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Old 21st Aug 2006, 11:35
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Originally Posted by the wizard of auz
there has never been an Australian pilot ever involved in a terrorism incident on Australian soil, or in an Australian aircraft
Wiz,

What's your definition of terrorism?

I seem to remember an Australian pilot flew a Baron into the Conellan offices in the Alice.

An act of terrorism?

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Old 21st Aug 2006, 13:56
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No, an act of suicide....with a negligent death as well from memory...so murder suicide...not terrorism.
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Old 21st Aug 2006, 15:28
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Thats old ground we have already covered. he certainly wasn't acting on behalf of any religious group/ government/ freedom fighter organisation Ect. he was just killing himself. he was a pilot, with a mental problem. nothing a tall fence or expensive red card would have prevented either.
whats to stop Billy blowfly from getting his ASIC card, pilots licence and then converting his beliefs and deciding to do his nasty deeds later?. nothing a red card, security screening or bloody expensive fence will prevent.
So, if some one commits a one off murder suicide with a knife/car/firearm/club/alcohol/drugs, are we going to ban or make it very expensive to the taxpayer?.
Nah, didn't think so. even though these things happen far more every week in australia than has been aircraft used in the history of australian aviation.
lets compare cheese with cheese if we're going to discuss it at all.
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