JETSTAR INT.. pilot recruitment PATHETIC
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Jet Stars recruitment seems fine. Conditions are less than their mainline counterparts but they will be the ones flying the shiney new jets! but the m ain thing about Jetstar is they seem positive and energetic towards their future. Qantas pilots seem bitter and twisted!
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Its not all about flying a jet, but more being assure of appropriate pay and conditions. They can have the jets and the conditions!!!
Yep I agree standard and I don't think that the Jetstar crew will be all upbeat and positive when the rubber hits the road doing Longhaul International Flying on their pay and rostering. I wonder how long the gloss will last..............
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Late night Shennanigans...
I believe my utter contempt for the rat-tailed vetting process has been well documented here many times. I will say in addition to that contempt, I have the same vestibule of sentiment for the entire find-a-pilot department. Never have I been so shabbily treated, and so like a pleb, that should be down-on-his knees for the golden opportunity, to be even considered, as worthy to join the ranks of their throttle monkeys, as I was back then. And I must admit, that contempt was exceeded only by my own stupidity, at eventualy joining the club.
That said, there was precious little difference between the RAAF procedure and that of the Rat's. Who copied whom, one wonders?... No matter, the attitude seems to be that a pilot is somehow borne, excaliber-like, rather than made.
Now, not being one to whinge, rather than offer solutions , I put this to you all.
Given that the burning desire to be a pilot, above all else , surely counts for more than days wanking a pretend joystick at QCC2 , (bear with me here), and given that Bader had wooden legs and Galland a chunk of glass (from a prior stack) in one eye.
Shouldn't we be asking an altogether different set of curlies to prospective young chaps with fire in their veins, and dreams of urging their valient steed though the air??
I say the questions asked by those who hold the purse-strings before letting you loose in one of "their" freedom-machines (can thay fly 'em?), should be along these lines:
Phase One
Question 1) Do you masturbate? [are you a liar]
Question 2) Do you have a girlfriend? [are you a liar] nb: If you doubt the veracity of that answer you've never been in GA.
Question 3) Are you blind. [Ref: Q 1.]
Orright, preliminaries over.
Phase Two:(Same Day Goddamnit)
Question 1) Which aeroplane in WW I, was both the first monoplane fighter and one to employ a revolutionary mechanism to enable a machine-gun to fire through the propellor-arc?
Question 2) Rittmeister Baron Manfred Von Richthoffen was known as? How many kills, AND for double points know that the Aussie Machine-Gunners got him, not a Kanuck.
The following are all worth double points.
Question 3) During the Battle-of-Britain. Which aeroplane had distinctive eliptical wings?
Question 4) Also during this battle, what aeroplane had a fuel-injected engine, 20mm cannon firing through the propellor-hub and automatically deploying leading-edge slats?
Question 5) Clive Caldwell was;
a) French
b) German
c) A piss-head.
A failure to gain a pass mark in this test should exclude you from becoming a pilot.
Crossbleed/out
That said, there was precious little difference between the RAAF procedure and that of the Rat's. Who copied whom, one wonders?... No matter, the attitude seems to be that a pilot is somehow borne, excaliber-like, rather than made.
Now, not being one to whinge, rather than offer solutions , I put this to you all.
Given that the burning desire to be a pilot, above all else , surely counts for more than days wanking a pretend joystick at QCC2 , (bear with me here), and given that Bader had wooden legs and Galland a chunk of glass (from a prior stack) in one eye.
Shouldn't we be asking an altogether different set of curlies to prospective young chaps with fire in their veins, and dreams of urging their valient steed though the air??
I say the questions asked by those who hold the purse-strings before letting you loose in one of "their" freedom-machines (can thay fly 'em?), should be along these lines:
Phase One
Question 1) Do you masturbate? [are you a liar]
Question 2) Do you have a girlfriend? [are you a liar] nb: If you doubt the veracity of that answer you've never been in GA.
Question 3) Are you blind. [Ref: Q 1.]
Orright, preliminaries over.
Phase Two:(Same Day Goddamnit)
Question 1) Which aeroplane in WW I, was both the first monoplane fighter and one to employ a revolutionary mechanism to enable a machine-gun to fire through the propellor-arc?
Question 2) Rittmeister Baron Manfred Von Richthoffen was known as? How many kills, AND for double points know that the Aussie Machine-Gunners got him, not a Kanuck.
The following are all worth double points.
Question 3) During the Battle-of-Britain. Which aeroplane had distinctive eliptical wings?
Question 4) Also during this battle, what aeroplane had a fuel-injected engine, 20mm cannon firing through the propellor-hub and automatically deploying leading-edge slats?
Question 5) Clive Caldwell was;
a) French
b) German
c) A piss-head.
A failure to gain a pass mark in this test should exclude you from becoming a pilot.
Crossbleed/out
1. Fokker E 1
2. Red Baron, at least 73 although some claim up to 84. Sgt. Cedric Popkin 24th Machine gun company is regarded as the likely machine gunner that got him.
3. Spitfire.
4. Messerschmidt Bf109. PS. You forgot to ask about "Miss Shillings Orifice".
5. (c)
OK, where do I sign?
2. Red Baron, at least 73 although some claim up to 84. Sgt. Cedric Popkin 24th Machine gun company is regarded as the likely machine gunner that got him.
3. Spitfire.
4. Messerschmidt Bf109. PS. You forgot to ask about "Miss Shillings Orifice".
5. (c)
OK, where do I sign?
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Couple of things to remember here...first the JPC had threats about base closures and loss of command prospects if the crap deal didn't go through. The JPC buckled to company pressure and saw a shiny new jet and didn't give a rats who they screwed in the interim. Add to that a group of merry men who had either failed QF selection, or ex AN guys with a chip who saw an A320 command on the horizon and didn't feel like making Custers last stand. The JQ guys were threatened by TJ too if they didn't vote the EBA through, the deal was, vote it through and you guys will get the Tasman flying.
Now that the honeymoon is over, the Jetstar pilots are seeing that what they get paid compared to their bretheren in EK, KA and up in Japan etc is pittance. They realise they have a crap deal, thats why still, as of last week they were a good 20 odd guys short for crewing the A330.
The JPC have been backed into a corner, no one is happy, morale is crap, they have a crap deal where they will be working their butts off, and add to that you have the Impulse guys versus the AN guys and the AN toecuters who are giving the Impulse guys hell on checks etc. Great culture and morale.
Add to that, a bloke with small old fella syndrome at the helm...to be sure to be sure to be sure!!
Sounds like a great place to work if you ask me......NOT!!!
Now that the honeymoon is over, the Jetstar pilots are seeing that what they get paid compared to their bretheren in EK, KA and up in Japan etc is pittance. They realise they have a crap deal, thats why still, as of last week they were a good 20 odd guys short for crewing the A330.
The JPC have been backed into a corner, no one is happy, morale is crap, they have a crap deal where they will be working their butts off, and add to that you have the Impulse guys versus the AN guys and the AN toecuters who are giving the Impulse guys hell on checks etc. Great culture and morale.
Add to that, a bloke with small old fella syndrome at the helm...to be sure to be sure to be sure!!
Sounds like a great place to work if you ask me......NOT!!!
Yeah, so they say, but the guys that fail the tests to get into QF, subsequently seem to pass the tests to get into Jetstar.
Is it true that the standard of testing required to get into Jetstar is about to get a major overhaul, both direct entry and cadets?
Minimum requirements before applying for both the cadetship and DE guys will be a 3 year university degree and passes in physics and maths?
Also a brand new psychometric/intelligence testing regime and flight screening, all of course paid for by the applicant.
Interesting times, more proof that Jetstar is morphing into Qantas especially in regards to recruitment standards and the arrival of the 787?
