Gr.1 Instructor Rating.

[novicef]

I should have my Gr.2 in 2 weeks time and am looking at preparing for a Gr.1. I have been lucky enough to get the experience required in the minimum 6 month period and want to get my Gr.1 as soon as possible. After looking at the CAO’s just a few questions on its interpretation.

• 750 hours instructional time of which 500 hours must be flight time, does that mean 250 hours can be made up of IFR simulator time or instructing time in a class room teaching PPL and CPL subjects.
• This 12 month wait after getting the Gr.2 can that be waived if one has all the aeronautical experience. I should have that in 6 months after getting my Gr.2.
• Does anybody have sample papers for the Gr.1 Principles of Learning & Teaching exam so that I can prepare for it?
• When can I sit for this exam? Anytime after I get the Gr.2 or only after I get the relevant aeronautical experience for the Gr.1.

Would appreciate info on the above, thanks

novicef

[rmcdonal]

This 12 month wait after getting the Gr.2 can that be waived if one has all the aeronautical experience. I should have that in 6 months after getting my Gr.2.

I doubt it, otherwise why would they have the requirement?
Gee your going through this fast, I recal only last year when you where asking about doing an Instructor Rating Course.

[turbantime]

750 hours instructional time of which 500 hours must be flight time, does that mean 250 hours can be made up of IFR simulator time or instructing time in a class room teaching PPL and CPL subjects.

The 500 hours it refers to are hours in a registered or recognised aeroplane, ie VH registered aeroplanes instructing as per the syllabus. The other 250 hours instructional can be made up on other aircraft types such as ultralights or even helicopters. You cannot count ground lecture time, it has to be flight time.

This 12 month wait after getting the Gr.2 can that be waived if one has all the aeronautical experience. I should have that in 6 months after getting my Gr.2.

The rules are pretty black and white on that one, you must have held a Grade 2 for a minimum of 12 months and satisfy the other requirements of CAO 40.1.7

Does anybody have sample papers for the Gr.1 Principles of Learning & Teaching exam so that I can prepare for it?

Ask around, there are plenty of people with past papers of this examination. Even if you don't get your hands on one, don't worry about it, just read that FAA book as all 90% of questions come from that and the other 10% are common sense type.

When can I sit for this exam? Anytime after I get the Gr.2 or only after I get the relevant aeronautical experience for the Gr.1.

At anytime, even after doing your initial Grade 3. You just have to have a pass on this exam, no timeframe involved.

Now on another note, and do not take this as me having a go at you, a Grade 1 is not something to be taken lightly as it involves enormous responsibility. Your post here and other previous posts lead me to believe that you want to accelerate everything and get everything done quickly.

A Grade 1 instructor must be a mature and responsible professional. You will be reporting directly to the CFI, be in charge of the junior instructors, and if required be involved in training new instructors.

For example, in my case, I actually got my Grade 1 after I left the instructing scene as I did not think I was ready to take on the extra responsibilities involved.

Again, just an observation, you may be an astute individual who thoroughly deserves their quick rise up the ladder but do not rush to become a Grade 1 as you'll only disadvantage others. Good luck.

[Squawk7700]

Turbantime says "ie VH registered aeroplanes"

Not exactly... "Ultralight" or "RA-Aus" registered aircraft are deemed to be "Aircraft" as of several years ago, thus the time counts.

That's why so many GA instructors are jumping aboard RA-Aus schools to get their hours up. I know of one instructor who's clocked up 750+ hours in his 8 months as a new RA-Aus instructor and there are no duty times to worry about.

[turbantime]

Fair enough Squawk, haven't had any dealings with the ultralight fraternity so wouldn't know.

[G Cantstandya]

Don't bother with gr1, get a real job!!!
Go up nth and fly a beaten up old 210 around in 40deg heat!!
Now that's living!!!!!

[novicef]

Gr.1 First.

Quote:
Go up nth and fly a beaten up old 210 around in 40deg heat.

Ill get my Gr.1 META then go North. Thanks for the advice.

[dragchute]

Catch 22 situation isn’t it? If everybody went north and built hours, the next transition into multi and airlines eliminates the need to instruct. On the other hand those who build hours in the city as flight instructors provide a valuable service in training the next crop of student pilots.

The downside is that new CPL’s move into the industry without the benefit of passed-on operational skills. The upside is that most schools and therefore the instructors stress the need for sound airmanship. The latter probably overcomes the former if the new CPL develops his learning into expertise.

Unfortunately most pilots who have progressed through the various levels of operational flying have little desire or financial incentive to revert to a basic trainer in the circuit. Hence the skills are lost to those who could benefit.

[Bendo]

Re: RAAus Time

Re: Squark 7700:

A small point of order - I queried CASA on the 'other' 250 hours in April when I upgraded to Gr I.

The 500 hours MUST be VH- time, instructing in sequences as per the Day VFR Syllabus. CAO 40.1.7 provides:

4.3 An applicant for the issue of a flight instructor (aeroplane) rating grade 1 must:
...(b) have logged at least 750 hours of instructional experience including 500
hours flight time, in a registered aeroplane or a recognised aeroplane,
instructing in sequences specified in the aeroplane syllabus...

The next 250 can be made up of other instructional experience. The comma after "...flight time..." qualifies the type of flight time, not the type of instructional experience. (no you can't count classroom experience - I know, I tried to get CASA on that one too! )

This can include RAAus time, Glider time, BFRs, Aerobatics, whatever - as long as it is INSTRUCTIONAL.

On the other point, CAO 40.1.7 again provides:

4.3 An applicant for the issue of a flight instructor (aeroplane) rating grade 1 must:
(a) have held a flight instructor (aeroplane) rating grade 2 for the 12 months immediately preceding the date of the application....

Fairly plain, that one. sorry.

Best of luck. I sent a letter straight to CASA and got one back from the local DFOM within a few weeks. Turbantime is right - It's a responsible job, but I reckon it is almost on a par with RAAus CFI... and the screening to be one of those is near non-existent I know, I are one

[OzExpat]

Bendo maaate!

Congrats on the Gr 1! It's about time we met up for a beer to celebrate that achievement!

[Bendo]

I'm sure I remember someone telling me on my instructor rating course that if you make Grade 1 it's CASA's way of telling you to move on....

[apache]

... and after a FEW beers with Bendo... it is ALSO tme to move on!

[Bendo]

Mate that was a LONG time ago, it was a LOT of beer, and besides... one day you will discover that having kids slows you down