Qantas and Forstaff circumvent immigaration laws?
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Originally Posted by U.K. SUBS.
Inthefluffy......it did happen. All planned annual leave is cancelled and revoked until the end of september. Phone calls went out to people to come back to work. There is not enough manpower to carry out the planned checks. Now wether this is legal or not i just don't know ( maybe someone can enlighten me). Are there new laws under workchoices that we don't yet know?
Workchoices does not really come into it you have a new agreement in place.
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what are u guy's worrying about-there won't be any oil in 5 years- there won't b an avaition industry-i think the guy's in h245 who got there pay out's will be the one's with the biggest grin's
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Domo....it goes back to the start of the thread. All those skills lost if they do shut down bay servicing...not too many will take up the offer of a fixed term contract. How will Forstaff make up the numbers required?...will the dept of immigration allow overseas workers in?.....all the evidence seems to suggest that they will. Workchoices!!!! dont you just love it?. So what do we do?. For a start contact your local mhr.......i know i will.
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I have read this thread at length and I can't condone trashing the south africans on their work abilities. I cannot speak for the guys whom worked in H245 but the guys in base were all well trained and very capable. I never had a problem with any work carried out by the SA guys or their ability to use the correct technical matter.
If you want to trash South Africans lets stick to the subject of rugby or speaking with stupid accent !!!
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I don't think forstaff have to contravene any immigration laws to hire people from abroad.
To gain an Aussie work permit/visa (what ever its called) you need to make up the total of 200 points. If you have a skill that is in shortage it gets you more points. EG if you have a trade and you are bringing assets with you, have a job lined up or are being sponsored and you can prove all your qualifications are bone-fide you have your 200 points and get the stamp in your passport allowing you to work.
I know of a South African whom had a job lined up in the computer industry as he was some kind of specialist in a large main frame application.
When he applied for a work permit he was told he had insufficient points as we have an over supply of computer geeks in Oz already therefore no shortage and a small allocation of points for his skill.
He was then asked if he had any other skills to build his "points" , to which he replied that he was a plumber with all his tickets as he had completed his apprenticeship/traineeship first job after leaving school.
This got him his 200 points and his work permit. He worked for 6 months as a plumber while searching for a job in his computer field and now does that under same permit.
I have read this thread at length and I can't condone trashing the south africans on their work abilities. I cannot speak for the guys whom worked in H245 but the guys in base were all well trained and very capable. I never had a problem with any work carried out by the SA guys or their ability to use the correct technical matter.
If you want to trash South Africans lets stick to the subject of rugby or speaking with stupid accent !!!
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I don't think forstaff have to contravene any immigration laws to hire people from abroad.
To gain an Aussie work permit/visa (what ever its called) you need to make up the total of 200 points. If you have a skill that is in shortage it gets you more points. EG if you have a trade and you are bringing assets with you, have a job lined up or are being sponsored and you can prove all your qualifications are bone-fide you have your 200 points and get the stamp in your passport allowing you to work.
I know of a South African whom had a job lined up in the computer industry as he was some kind of specialist in a large main frame application.
When he applied for a work permit he was told he had insufficient points as we have an over supply of computer geeks in Oz already therefore no shortage and a small allocation of points for his skill.
He was then asked if he had any other skills to build his "points" , to which he replied that he was a plumber with all his tickets as he had completed his apprenticeship/traineeship first job after leaving school.
This got him his 200 points and his work permit. He worked for 6 months as a plumber while searching for a job in his computer field and now does that under same permit.
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Bolty......your 100% right about the points system......i went through it a long time ago through self nomination. The issue is for employers who want to bring groups of skilled professonals to oz.This is the point i'm making, qf is hell bent on offloading its engineering capability as no-one doubts here on pprune but in this process they have found themselves seriously undermanned with the fleet maint. requirements. So they go overseas through forstaff to replace the lost skill base and employ them under lesser conditions........vee won kutt has the same topic on another thread with shipping......qf and forstaff are using workchoices by proxy.....the dept of immigration has criteria about companies brining in skilled workers i had a look at the website and it's there in black and white. It just remains to be seen how it will be used against qf workers in bay serviceing......
