Instructor Job going down south
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So has this job been taken yet?
Hi, just wondering if this job has been taken yet? It's hard to tell what's going on coz some of the guys posting sound like they work there and the thread has got a little confused with other stuff about working under the award....????
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I have been on this forum just on 2 weeks. Is it true as has been suggested that there are posts here from employees within that school telling us of the good working conditions?
I would have thought that flying being such a close community that the working conditions of each flying school would have been known.
How is it that If this school is only 45mins from Melbourne and even closer toMoorabbin that it can attract only 2 resumes?I would have thought that with the large instructor population at Moorabbin & Essendon they would have been overwhelmed with applications.I see they have 2 CFI's Why?
Am I being naive? I have learnt more in 2 weeks about this industry than the few years hanging around airports. Thank you PPRUNE I'm learning a lot.
I would have thought that flying being such a close community that the working conditions of each flying school would have been known.
How is it that If this school is only 45mins from Melbourne and even closer toMoorabbin that it can attract only 2 resumes?I would have thought that with the large instructor population at Moorabbin & Essendon they would have been overwhelmed with applications.I see they have 2 CFI's Why?
Am I being naive? I have learnt more in 2 weeks about this industry than the few years hanging around airports. Thank you PPRUNE I'm learning a lot.
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Hi Novicef
Some good questions in your post.
That's always an issue on an anonymous forum, such as this one. Read the warning in red at the bottom of this page, and bear it in mind whenever you read a post.
Having said that, it is a SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS in D&G that most employee comments tend to slag off the places that they're working for (or have just left).
From what I know, there is a CFI for GA and a CFI for Ultra lights (I may be wrong about this); so two different people.
As to why no-one seems to have applied, who knows? For all we know, they may have been inundated with responses. You'll have to contact them to find out, though.
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As to why people may not want to relocate there, the answer is a little more complex, and involves individual comfort zones (i.e. is the next job so good that I'm willing to leave this job?), other flying school reputations, etc.
Lastly, I DON'T work for them (and am unlikely to work for them, either). I know their (GA) CFI personally, and have a lot of time for him.
Anyway, keep on asking questions like that, and you'll learn more!
Cheers,
DIVOSH
Is it true as has been suggested that there are posts here from employees within that school telling us of the good working conditions?
Having said that, it is a SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS in D&G that most employee comments tend to slag off the places that they're working for (or have just left).
I see they have 2 CFI's Why?
As to why no-one seems to have applied, who knows? For all we know, they may have been inundated with responses. You'll have to contact them to find out, though.
.As to why people may not want to relocate there, the answer is a little more complex, and involves individual comfort zones (i.e. is the next job so good that I'm willing to leave this job?), other flying school reputations, etc.
Lastly, I DON'T work for them (and am unlikely to work for them, either). I know their (GA) CFI personally, and have a lot of time for him.
Anyway, keep on asking questions like that, and you'll learn more!
Cheers,
DIVOSH
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Good Q novice your learning fast. Just look at the handles and the various profiles. It Doesen't take Einstein where these posts originate. Jabdriver not a very original handle Sea captain do you fly the sea plane there. Di Vosh you fly PA31's their largest twin is a PA31 if you don't work there, its pointless working there anyway.
The GA CFI used to work at Moorabbin I'm told. He is well known.
Gees what an industry?
The GA CFI used to work at Moorabbin I'm told. He is well known.
Gees what an industry?
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Di Vosh you fly PA31's their largest twin is a PA31 if you don't work there, its pointless working there anyway.
Do you know my circumstances? What makes you think that I wouldn't apply for a different Chieftain job? Did you know that they also fly a Caravan? Maybe I'd like to apply for a Caravan position. Sure, it's a single, but a bit of turbine time might appeal.
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And now it's time for some facts - from the horses mouth
Enough whining and bitching and theorising, now it's my turn; straight from the horses mouth
8hrs-bottle2throttle - me the original poster who donsn't work at the school; posted this thread in an attempt to help out a friend who is not pprune aware, by covertly advertising a position for the school.
The school was after a Snr Grade 3, or perhaps grade 2 to fill the shoes of a departing instructor and another instructor who now does mostly charter.
I'd like to thank those of you very much (you know who you are) that took a genuine interest in what was a genuine job offered by a genuine employer and actually took a plunge and sent in your Resume's. Your resume's have been taken on board and reviewed. I believe a suitable candidate has been chosen, but they may not actually be aware of it yet; it was a Ppruner. Of course, the next step would be for him to accept the position and move, which means that anyone else still has a chance.
For those of you who just sat there bitching and whinging about how there are no jobs in GA, or perhaps how this job isn't legit, it's too good to be true, or whatever...- I wish you all the very best in your future endeavours in finding future employment, because you WILL need it. Whilst you are sitting back wasting time, others are out there getting off their butts and really trying to make a name for themselves and get some hours under their belt.
No some more facts:
- The position is / was a good salary position
- "Expected" hours were 70+ per month minimum
- TFS is a reputable operator with good track record
- There is 1 (one) CFI of TFS
- There are 2 x RA-Aus CFI's (hence the confusion)
- The instructor being replaced flew charter and now does that full time
- The other vacancy is for someone who started there only a year ago and has now secured a big twin position elsewhere
They operate (fact):
- C208B
- PA31
- Cirrus SR 20
- Cirrus SR 22
- C172's
- Tommy
- Decath
and several others.
The following posters are not employees or associated with TFS in any way:
- 160 knots
- Jabdriver
- ani tayas
- Squawk7700
- C152R (the biggist cynic of all!)
- Sykes
- Sexual chocolate
- TurbanTime
- NoviceF
- Puff
- Runway37
- VH-XXX
- SeaCaptain (is not a RA-AUS float-plane driver from TFS!!!)
- DiVosh (thanks for you posts, most helpful)
Other facts:
- Tooradin is around 45-55 minutes from the Centre of Melbourne, close to Cranbourne and Pakenham and around 35-40 minutes from Moorabbin
- Many of you should try and spend your time on something more constructive and not waste your time in front of the computer screen when you are supposed to be a pilot.
That is all, and remember, 8 Hours from Bottle to Throttle!
8hrs-bottle2throttle - me the original poster who donsn't work at the school; posted this thread in an attempt to help out a friend who is not pprune aware, by covertly advertising a position for the school.
The school was after a Snr Grade 3, or perhaps grade 2 to fill the shoes of a departing instructor and another instructor who now does mostly charter.
I'd like to thank those of you very much (you know who you are) that took a genuine interest in what was a genuine job offered by a genuine employer and actually took a plunge and sent in your Resume's. Your resume's have been taken on board and reviewed. I believe a suitable candidate has been chosen, but they may not actually be aware of it yet; it was a Ppruner. Of course, the next step would be for him to accept the position and move, which means that anyone else still has a chance.
For those of you who just sat there bitching and whinging about how there are no jobs in GA, or perhaps how this job isn't legit, it's too good to be true, or whatever...- I wish you all the very best in your future endeavours in finding future employment, because you WILL need it. Whilst you are sitting back wasting time, others are out there getting off their butts and really trying to make a name for themselves and get some hours under their belt.
No some more facts:
- The position is / was a good salary position
- "Expected" hours were 70+ per month minimum
- TFS is a reputable operator with good track record
- There is 1 (one) CFI of TFS
- There are 2 x RA-Aus CFI's (hence the confusion)
- The instructor being replaced flew charter and now does that full time
- The other vacancy is for someone who started there only a year ago and has now secured a big twin position elsewhere
They operate (fact):
- C208B
- PA31
- Cirrus SR 20
- Cirrus SR 22
- C172's
- Tommy
- Decath
and several others.
The following posters are not employees or associated with TFS in any way:
- 160 knots
- Jabdriver
- ani tayas
- Squawk7700
- C152R (the biggist cynic of all!)
- Sykes
- Sexual chocolate
- TurbanTime
- NoviceF
- Puff
- Runway37
- VH-XXX
- SeaCaptain (is not a RA-AUS float-plane driver from TFS!!!)
- DiVosh (thanks for you posts, most helpful)
Other facts:
- Tooradin is around 45-55 minutes from the Centre of Melbourne, close to Cranbourne and Pakenham and around 35-40 minutes from Moorabbin
- Many of you should try and spend your time on something more constructive and not waste your time in front of the computer screen when you are supposed to be a pilot.
That is all, and remember, 8 Hours from Bottle to Throttle!
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Quote. DinVosh.
Maybe I'd like to apply for a Caravan position. Sure, it's a single, but a bit of turbine time might appeal.
Lastly, I DON'T work for them (and am unlikely to work for them, either). I know their (GA) CFI personally, and have a lot of time for him.
I'm sure the guy concerned is a great guy. Looks a bit like self interest wouldn't you say??
So 8 Hours Bottle. I'm sure everybody is now enlightened. So this new guy that's been chosen is being advised by telegram? I guess GA down South haven't heard of Mobiles & SMS.
Maybe I'd like to apply for a Caravan position. Sure, it's a single, but a bit of turbine time might appeal.
Lastly, I DON'T work for them (and am unlikely to work for them, either). I know their (GA) CFI personally, and have a lot of time for him.
I'm sure the guy concerned is a great guy. Looks a bit like self interest wouldn't you say??
So 8 Hours Bottle. I'm sure everybody is now enlightened. So this new guy that's been chosen is being advised by telegram? I guess GA down South haven't heard of Mobiles & SMS.
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Well unlike Mr. C152R (gee what a great aircraft), he's probably out flying now, building his hours and his mobile is perhaps out of range... when he returns to his phone and listens to his voice-mail, he will no doubt find out that he has a great new job.
No telegrams down here. TFS is modern, just take a look at the website and you'll see for yourself. Name somewhere else with 3 Cirruses on line?
No telegrams down here. TFS is modern, just take a look at the website and you'll see for yourself. Name somewhere else with 3 Cirruses on line?
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Cessna 152R,
The seacaptain does not appreciate your insubordination and wild accusations. There used to be a time where you could sail the seas in peace.
And for the record, the seacaptain would never trade his ship for a floating plane.
I think it be the plank for you me matie!
Arrrghhh!
The seacaptain does not appreciate your insubordination and wild accusations. There used to be a time where you could sail the seas in peace.
And for the record, the seacaptain would never trade his ship for a floating plane.
I think it be the plank for you me matie!
Arrrghhh!
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Cirrui???
I think it's Cirri (pron. Si-rye).
btw SeaCaptain, I heard your plank was considered a short walk!
And Squawk7700, seeing as that you know so much about TDN (but don't work there....not that there's anything wrong with that), do they do training on the Cirri there??
There's nothing like the knowledge that no matter how much you stuff up there's always a lever to pull to bring you down to earth.
I think it's Cirri (pron. Si-rye).
btw SeaCaptain, I heard your plank was considered a short walk!
And Squawk7700, seeing as that you know so much about TDN (but don't work there....not that there's anything wrong with that), do they do training on the Cirri there??
There's nothing like the knowledge that no matter how much you stuff up there's always a lever to pull to bring you down to earth.
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I'm in Vic and I enquired about a Cirrus endorsement a while back. When I spoke to Steve Maltby the importer in QLD he said that Tooradin was the only authorised Cirrus Flight Training Centre in Southern AUS, so I went and did mine there. Last check I made, there were 3 of them down there; 2 x 20 and a 22. NICE ! The 22 has the new TAWS... it talks to you when point it at the ground! WARNING, WARNING Will Robertson!!
The CAPS / Parachute is very impressive. Something like 135 knots max deployment speed so you need to level off if the wings falls off to reduce speed before deployment!!!
There was a thread on the Cirrus's (Cirri?) a while back if you want to know more.
The CAPS / Parachute is very impressive. Something like 135 knots max deployment speed so you need to level off if the wings falls off to reduce speed before deployment!!!
There was a thread on the Cirrus's (Cirri?) a while back if you want to know more.
