Australian Flying Magazine
I agree with Karrank. There is something useful to me in every issue, just like there is something to learn in every flight, but of course I'm only a low time ppl, not a sky god
I think bundling the whole magazine into the "unprofessional basket is a touch harsh".
BUT after finally getting my mag on friday and flipping straight to the Morrison Article, surely the writer who compiled that article must have had a few too many the night before, I am still confused as to how he can have ALL his pictures as the Metro and not mention it ONCE in the article. And for the Editor to not pick this up means that either both the Editor and the writer do not know their aircraft or that.......they just don't know their aircraft!
I find Jim's articles quite helpful, especially the ones on flying techniques and exposing the flaws in "default standard" instructing techniques. The Reach for the Sky series however of late has been going downhill. Sure they need to demonstrate that ANYONE (just about) can get a PPL these days but even someone whom after getting their PPL still cannot do simple procedures...ie Diversions.
BUT after finally getting my mag on friday and flipping straight to the Morrison Article, surely the writer who compiled that article must have had a few too many the night before, I am still confused as to how he can have ALL his pictures as the Metro and not mention it ONCE in the article. And for the Editor to not pick this up means that either both the Editor and the writer do not know their aircraft or that.......they just don't know their aircraft!
I find Jim's articles quite helpful, especially the ones on flying techniques and exposing the flaws in "default standard" instructing techniques. The Reach for the Sky series however of late has been going downhill. Sure they need to demonstrate that ANYONE (just about) can get a PPL these days but even someone whom after getting their PPL still cannot do simple procedures...ie Diversions.
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Don't get me started on Nurses, what a mob of whingin' buggers .... cost the taxpayer a bomb and then bugger off to some drug / pathology company to drive small kamikaze machines around pretending to be important, and then wanna get CPL's to do the same in the sky .... sheese i ask ya!
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karrank....far from giving me a woody I was utterly dissmayed by what I read in the P68C 'infomercial' with regards to takeoff and landing techniques.
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He does go on to 'strongly recommend' using 78 KIAS for 'bush' operations...well thank god for small mercies
In a mag read primarily, I suspect, by inexperienced pilots it is unforgiveable to suggest the above techniques are acceptable in any way shape or form. In the same mag (AF May/June) there is an article titled 'GA safety gets overdue attention'...if completely ignoring assymetric considerations on takeoff but then blindly accepting what some tosser at CASA 'prefers' on landing is an example of where Australian GA has ended up then it certainly needs some 'overdue attention'.
Unlike your good self, I suspect, I do actually know Phelan and have in the past enjoyed many beers at Cairns Aeroclub with him and while I dissagree with him about NAS I believe his heart is in the right place and generally enjoy his writings. I very much enjoyed the light hearted article comparing the best SE Piston aircraft ever built to that plastic Cirrus thingy
I think he makes some very good points in his May/June Backlash column.
But I think he was less than critical enough about the techniques espoused by the P68C salesman let alone the 'CASA preference' of landing at blue line speed
It is very common in all aviation mags that 'aircraft test flights' tend toward being infomercials....if the journo involved is a little too harsh/honest he probably doesn't get to fly the latest shiny new aircraft anymore...but ANY pilot who suggests he's going use the above takeoff technique in a light piston twin I am sitting in gets told to pull over and let me out...end of story. When in the past CASA ops staff have suggested similar such BS to me...and they have on more than a few occassions I simply keep asking them pertinant questions until they realise how stupid they sound.
Vmca and Blue line speeds are takeoff considerations primarily...below an appropriate altitude on finals...say 200-300' they are an irrelevance....because only a fool with a death wish does assy go arounds in a light piston twin from low altitude.
Not even attempting to attain blue line speed until above 500' in a piston twin is incredibly bad airmanship and very unsafe...landing 14kts over manufacturers recommend Vref is just as bad. It should never appear in a flying magazine and a complaint should be filed with the CASA individual concerned and if he can't be found or won't listen to reason it/he should be reported to his seniors.
rant over.
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the aircraft assumes a very poistive climb when rotated at 71 KIAS, and at 200' the fuel pump is switched off, checking that pressure is maintained. Flaps up at 500' and the aircraft accelerates to its 92 kt blue line speed.
and will similarly float if your approach speed is above manufacturer's recommended approach speed of 78 KIAS. I found that approaching at blue line speed- apparenty a CASA "preference"- you'll leave a lot of bitumen behind you and maybe spend a little more on brake linings...
In a mag read primarily, I suspect, by inexperienced pilots it is unforgiveable to suggest the above techniques are acceptable in any way shape or form. In the same mag (AF May/June) there is an article titled 'GA safety gets overdue attention'...if completely ignoring assymetric considerations on takeoff but then blindly accepting what some tosser at CASA 'prefers' on landing is an example of where Australian GA has ended up then it certainly needs some 'overdue attention'.
Unlike your good self, I suspect, I do actually know Phelan and have in the past enjoyed many beers at Cairns Aeroclub with him and while I dissagree with him about NAS I believe his heart is in the right place and generally enjoy his writings. I very much enjoyed the light hearted article comparing the best SE Piston aircraft ever built to that plastic Cirrus thingy
I think he makes some very good points in his May/June Backlash column.
But I think he was less than critical enough about the techniques espoused by the P68C salesman let alone the 'CASA preference' of landing at blue line speed
It is very common in all aviation mags that 'aircraft test flights' tend toward being infomercials....if the journo involved is a little too harsh/honest he probably doesn't get to fly the latest shiny new aircraft anymore...but ANY pilot who suggests he's going use the above takeoff technique in a light piston twin I am sitting in gets told to pull over and let me out...end of story. When in the past CASA ops staff have suggested similar such BS to me...and they have on more than a few occassions I simply keep asking them pertinant questions until they realise how stupid they sound.
Vmca and Blue line speeds are takeoff considerations primarily...below an appropriate altitude on finals...say 200-300' they are an irrelevance....because only a fool with a death wish does assy go arounds in a light piston twin from low altitude.
Not even attempting to attain blue line speed until above 500' in a piston twin is incredibly bad airmanship and very unsafe...landing 14kts over manufacturers recommend Vref is just as bad. It should never appear in a flying magazine and a complaint should be filed with the CASA individual concerned and if he can't be found or won't listen to reason it/he should be reported to his seniors.
rant over.
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Well said chuck.
A magazine that runs about fifty advertisements for flying training, and rarely a single one for pilot vacancies, obviously is divorced from reality. It's mainly propaganda.
When we applied to have a P68 put on our AOC, we submitted details etc from the manuals to CASA. I got a call from a CASA FOI, who told me that the 159 knot cruise speed we were using was wrong. He said "they can only do about 120 knots when they are going downhill" My reply was that I had considerable experience in them and the figure from the manual was correct. He also phoned my chief pilot, and got a similar reply. We did not change anything, the type was added to the AOC, and the aeroplane did what we expected.
Those who know about these things are out here, doing it.
A magazine that runs about fifty advertisements for flying training, and rarely a single one for pilot vacancies, obviously is divorced from reality. It's mainly propaganda.
When we applied to have a P68 put on our AOC, we submitted details etc from the manuals to CASA. I got a call from a CASA FOI, who told me that the 159 knot cruise speed we were using was wrong. He said "they can only do about 120 knots when they are going downhill" My reply was that I had considerable experience in them and the figure from the manual was correct. He also phoned my chief pilot, and got a similar reply. We did not change anything, the type was added to the AOC, and the aeroplane did what we expected.
Those who know about these things are out here, doing it.
Mogas 172, after having spent the last 22 years hitched to a nurse (and a very dedicated one) I can assure you they've got every right to whinge. After seeing what they have to put up with and the responsibilities that go with their profession, I believe they should be paid as twice as much as they are currently getting.
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and will similarly float if your approach speed is above manufacturer's recommended approach speed of 78 KIAS. I found that approaching at blue line speed- apparenty a CASA "preference"- you'll leave a lot of bitumen behind you and maybe spend a little more on brake linings...
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Ha! someone to take the bait .... Well Grass Boogie I been married to a Nurse for 31 years and still married so I claim seniority, and she's still in the profession working in a hospital copping all of Bob Carrs BS.
(I was taking the p.ss mate) It's called aussie humour and I been guilty of it for many years
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(I was taking the p.ss mate) It's called aussie humour and I been guilty of it for many years
Cheers
