ATC Callsign use
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ATC Callsign use
It seems that Pacific Blue use the callsign "Bluebird". ATC in Sydney not long ago issued us with instructions reference to the "Bluebird". Considering none of us had any background knowledge of Pacific Blue's callsign, and that the aircraft is bright red... why was the callsign used as a prompt for visual identification? Is that the norm?
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grrowler, yes we did seek clarification. My point is that "Bluebird" could have meant anything... Aussie standard or not, it doesn't seem reasonable to use a callsign for visual ID.
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Lancer,
Some airlines are easy to work out...Qantas, Cathay, Singapore, American, United, Virgin etc...not many of them reflect the colour of the aircraft.
Ones that you need background on would be the likes of Speedbird, Dynasty, Bluebird...dont seem to be a big deal to me.
Besides..you could get some points up with your capt by educating him/her...
Some airlines are easy to work out...Qantas, Cathay, Singapore, American, United, Virgin etc...not many of them reflect the colour of the aircraft.
Ones that you need background on would be the likes of Speedbird, Dynasty, Bluebird...dont seem to be a big deal to me.
Besides..you could get some points up with your capt by educating him/her...
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ATC are supposed to tell you the type of aircraft you are looking for, if possible they might add the colour but that is fraught with danger. Bluebird aircraft (Pacific Blue) are identical to Virgin aircraft - red with white tails, only the name is different and Virgin still fly a lot of Pacific Blue a/c on domestic routes.
Airlines are supposed to advise ATC if they are operating in non-standard livery. Problem, 1. mainly they don't; 2. the information is hidden in field 18 of the plan and might not make it onto the controllers screen.
Cross hiring is not commonplace in Australia although for a long time Virgin were flying the old CZA with a white body and red tail, looked like QANTAS, and Freedom use a lot of ANZ 737's. Alliance has one aircraft painted with Alliance airlines colours on one side (Blue/White Tail) and Norfolk airlines (Green/White tail) on the other !
Airlines are supposed to advise ATC if they are operating in non-standard livery. Problem, 1. mainly they don't; 2. the information is hidden in field 18 of the plan and might not make it onto the controllers screen.
Cross hiring is not commonplace in Australia although for a long time Virgin were flying the old CZA with a white body and red tail, looked like QANTAS, and Freedom use a lot of ANZ 737's. Alliance has one aircraft painted with Alliance airlines colours on one side (Blue/White Tail) and Norfolk airlines (Green/White tail) on the other !
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