Chinook Heavy Landing in Iraq
Chinook Heavy Landing in Iraq
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Have a look at these, it'll tell you a little but not all of the facts, thankfully it appears no one was injured.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2Fwcrash03.xml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2Fnmoore09.xml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2Fwcrash03.xml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2Fnmoore09.xml
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Turnbull, thanks for your shortcuts. An interesting piece by the Torygraph (can't believe they put a bloke in the jumpseat- wouldn't have happened in my day!), but I'm intrigued that mil sources are looking at mechanical problems when the broadsheet refers to fuel pressure collapsing. Hmmm, and looking at Tourist's subtle reference to the incident signal, methinks there is something rather interesting going on here. Well, am I wrong? And yes, thank goodness nobody was hurt but I guess there must be some mighty large laundry bills in downtown Baghdad.
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KPax, was this a fuel starvation problem?
And how many times have the words " But double-engine failures never happen" been uttered when at the sim! Any idea what the Nr got down to and was the cab a write-off?
And how many times have the words " But double-engine failures never happen" been uttered when at the sim! Any idea what the Nr got down to and was the cab a write-off?
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Probability of losing all engines at the same time.
But double-engine failures never happen" been uttered
Was this a case of "air contamination" to the fuel system.....single engine failures are one thing....a second (subsequent) engine failure another.....but dual...like simultaneous dual engine failures.....errrr....ahhhh....one can only conjure up a couple of scenarios for that....and they each signal "Aw ****s!" for someone. Like if you happen to be feeding both donks from one source of fuel....and it gets shut off....develops an airy mix....gremlins are evil but they are not omnipotent!
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Tourist/SASless, sounds like it was one of those avoidable accidents, possibly as a result of press-on-itis and may be a breakdown in crew coop. Still, I do sympathise with the guys. I have twice landed on fumes in the Wokka, once at the refuel site and once in the middle of a field on a far away island in the south. That time I was pressured to do the task against my judgement (but I was just the sprog) and subsequently proven right: fat lot of good that did me as I pondered a night in the bondue with my crew. The lesson is an age-old one- don't press, it's never that important. Reminds of the Jeff Barber Puma in Spain story, when he ignored the crew and actually ran out of fuel in flight, executing an EOL into a parade square; the crew were not impressed!
Anyone else got any 'Gosh, that was close' dramas to relate?
Anyone else got any 'Gosh, that was close' dramas to relate?
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Re. the 'any more stories'? , you might care for the introduction of the Whirlwind (Mk4) into SAR ops at XXXXXXXX. Marine Craft laid on for Press and TV cameras to view demo of deck winching.
Lined up nicely for a pick-up from the rear deck and, about 40 yards out, the engine stopped and the resultant ditching was, probably the most minutely recorded such event in history. Cause? - lack of go-juice. Crew complement was interesting!
Re. the 'any more stories'? , you might care for the introduction of the Whirlwind (Mk4) into SAR ops at XXXXXXXX. Marine Craft laid on for Press and TV cameras to view demo of deck winching.
Lined up nicely for a pick-up from the rear deck and, about 40 yards out, the engine stopped and the resultant ditching was, probably the most minutely recorded such event in history. Cause? - lack of go-juice. Crew complement was interesting!
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Turnbull, you are far too cunning to be deceived by my flimsy attempt at protecting the priva...oh, heck, you got me! I prostrate myself at your feet in humble and abject...then again, I was taking a lead from the fine Torygraph, as highlighted by FEBA. If inaccuracy is good enough for them it's a weak but good enough, excuse for me!
Cornish Jack, a fine example of zero-juice intolerance! You must tell who the crew was, as your cryptic comment has got me all agog- it wasn't CINC STC, was it? Or maybe an Uncle of mine by marriage, who was on the fleet at the time.
Do tell!
There must be more howlers out there- come on you lot, confess!
Cornish Jack, a fine example of zero-juice intolerance! You must tell who the crew was, as your cryptic comment has got me all agog- it wasn't CINC STC, was it? Or maybe an Uncle of mine by marriage, who was on the fleet at the time.
Do tell!
There must be more howlers out there- come on you lot, confess!
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Most of the occassions that I am familiar with, were at the completion of a sortie.....Gafaww...Gafaww
Sorry mate..I will try to be constructive, I think I had to much sun today
Sorry mate..I will try to be constructive, I think I had to much sun today
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Guzzle
Re. the Whirly crew - let's just say that a certain amount of self-chastisement would have been required...... sort of, 'don't do as I do, do as I say'. Just realised that that could be misinterpreted - t'was not I !!!
Re. the Whirly crew - let's just say that a certain amount of self-chastisement would have been required...... sort of, 'don't do as I do, do as I say'. Just realised that that could be misinterpreted - t'was not I !!!