Vulcan barrell rolling?????
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Yeah you're right - Roly Falk took off at Farnborough Air Show late 50's, pulled the Vulcan up onto it's back and rolled off the top. Then.......the Victor took off flown by Hedley George Hazelden (I think!) and did the same!!....Awesome and well noisy...Aah the mists of time........ Don't think anyone's barrelled the Puma yet .....oh dear here we go....
Yeah you're right - Roly Falk took off at Farnborough Air Show late 50's, pulled the Vulcan up onto it's back and rolled off the top. Then.......the Victor took off flown by Hedley George Hazelden (I think!) and did the same!!....Awesome and well noisy...Aah the mists of time........ Don't think anyone's barrelled the Puma yet .....oh dear here we go....
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RE: Nimrod Rolls
An AEO on the MRA4 project (name rhymes with "Blue Steel" I think) allegedly possesses video taken from a nimrod cockpit showing the norwegian coast rolling through 360 degrees.
Mind you 42 Sqn used to have a video that showed my crew doing a loop in one over Marham! - thanks to MUDROCK's creativity with the Sqn video camera it looked bloody good - even if it wasn't entirely authentic.
An AEO on the MRA4 project (name rhymes with "Blue Steel" I think) allegedly possesses video taken from a nimrod cockpit showing the norwegian coast rolling through 360 degrees.
Mind you 42 Sqn used to have a video that showed my crew doing a loop in one over Marham! - thanks to MUDROCK's creativity with the Sqn video camera it looked bloody good - even if it wasn't entirely authentic.
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BEagle - Anyone rolled a VC-10 yet? ~ Seems to work OK on FS2000 I wonder if it would in real life!
I certainly hope not!
I don't suppse that computer games have the same control forces - nor would they kill you and your crew when you screwed up trying an illegal manoeuvre........
Mind you - I tried it in the simulator a couple of times in the dim and distant. Difficult bit was getting the pitch attitude high enough in the first half without the stall protection system operating - and avoiding burying the nose and exceeding Vmo or overstressing on the recovery.......
I don't suppse that computer games have the same control forces - nor would they kill you and your crew when you screwed up trying an illegal manoeuvre........
Mind you - I tried it in the simulator a couple of times in the dim and distant. Difficult bit was getting the pitch attitude high enough in the first half without the stall protection system operating - and avoiding burying the nose and exceeding Vmo or overstressing on the recovery.......
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Unusual attitude recovery in the sim: it's sometimes just easier to let the momentum take it all the way over .... pretty impressive in a 777 and not sure I'd want to do it for real!!
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B 737NG rolls OK in the sim 250KT pitch up to 15 degrees and then roll a little top rudder helps and dont forget to ease off on the back pressure when inverted............great fun in the hydrulic box but I think that I will give it a miss for real !.
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On a visit to the Luftwaffe Flugberietschaft (VIP Transport Squadron) at Koln about 12 years ago, they said there wasn't an aircraft on the squadron they hadn't rolled - this included a VFW614, Canadair Challengers & a very new (non-FBW) Airbus! Don't know how serious they were but the last CL601 delivery test from Dornier Oberpfaffenhoffen around the same time was jumped by two F-4Gs. They picked the wrong guy - the PIC was an ex-RCAF CF-104 stick who proceeded to out turn them. The inspector in the back said it wasn't the lead Phantom he was worried about but the wingman got awful close!
I've seen a lot of the Central Mid-West from funny angles especially when an ex-F-18 pilot tries to confuse an ex-Tornado driver during HUD Unusual Attitudes testing on a CL65.
I've seen a lot of the Central Mid-West from funny angles especially when an ex-F-18 pilot tries to confuse an ex-Tornado driver during HUD Unusual Attitudes testing on a CL65.
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Maybe BEagle can correct me, but I think the only problem with barrel-rolling the Vulcan was the gimbal limits on the radar scanner. It was quite a heavy item and if it clunked against the stops could do some damage. I may be wrong, but I believe Terry Fennell, who was the trials pilot for the Skybolt, and later CI of 230 OCU, looped a B2.
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Re Nimrod barell rolling: I was visiting US Navy mate at a Floridian Base and the Nimrod was doing a mighty fine display for an airliner. The pilot didn't actually barrel roll it but got bl*%!y close to inverted flight. Like well over 150 degrees. It looked pretty good from where I was stood and I thought it was going to go all the way.
