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Old 29th Apr 2023, 06:31
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Short Tucano to Germany?

It appears that Qty 13 Short Tucano have ended up in Germany having been sold or leased to ESG / PTL by RSW out of Arizona for potential contract work, serials:

ZF137, ZF169, ZF170, ZF171, ZF172, ZF205, ZF239, ZF292, ZF294, ZF317, ZF319, ZF341, ZF491
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Reportedly went to Germany in November.
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Interesting development. Assume ‘Restricted’ or ‘Experimental’ category in the US so presumably being flown as State Aircraft in Germany rather than under EASA SPO conditions? Wonder who holds the TC? Spirit, Bombardier or somebody else? A glance at the RSW website suggests the some of their aircraft are much modified from the T.1 as delivered to the RAF, with a partial glass cockpit, pylons, Stores Management System and HMDS (presumably STC cleared….) all being offered, so it does raise some questions over certification and airworthiness assurance….
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I wonder if a German company might be leasing them for an RAF Pilot Training contract?
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Why does one of my wet dreams involve these things getting tooled up and sent East?

Fast(ish) and low, I wonder how survivable they would be?
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Why does one of my wet dreams involve these things getting tooled up and sent East?

Fast(ish) and low, I wonder how survivable they would be?
Not very, given the Shorts Tucano T1 had no provision to carry weapons. The Super Tucano, however...
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The RSW website shows they've added external stores

https://www.rswaviation.com/wp-conte...08242016-1.pdf
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Looks impressive

https://rswaviation.com/light-attack-isr/
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"Forward firing gun" 😉
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I particularly like "most experienced Shorts Tucano operator in North America".....a war-winning capability!
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With Jericho trumpet......?
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Where are the rest stashed?
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Probably Shawbury but see the link, 22 went to the USA to the company mentioned.

https://www.skippyscage.com/aviation...lley/index.php

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Thanks, was wondering if they were still at Linton but probably not.
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Not sure a Tucano is the place to be in a MANPAD environment with no IR DAS. Yikes!
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Thanks, was wondering if they were still at Linton but probably not.
Tap on the aircraft serial numbers to see pictures of them stored at Shawbury.

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Not sure a Tucano is the place to be in a MANPAD environment with no IR DAS. Yikes!
Quite. They'll end up flogging them to some third-world General who wants to dispose of the villagers whose huts are in the way of his new luxury mansion.
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Quite. They'll end up flogging them to some third-world General who wants to dispose of the villagers whose huts are in the way of his new luxury mansion.
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Not very, given the Shorts Tucano T1 had no provision to carry weapons
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The wing was reinforced for hard points, the export version was equipped to use them. The reason RAF Tucs had no weapons system was because they would have been counted as combat aircraft under the terms of the CFE (Conventional Forces Europe) treaty.
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Looks impressive
Really? Max level speed 269KIAS, Vne 300KIAS??

Not that impressive to me.....
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