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Old 13th Jun 2024, 19:13
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Russia has deployed the S-500 to Ukraine, I wonder how much better they are, no doubt we will soon find out.



https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status...93776363561192
S500 is designed to supplement the S400 system and shares many common components. It extends the range covered out to a claimed 600Km and, according to the marketing, can engage both hypersonic and ballistic missiles as well as satellites, cruise missiles and aircraft etc.

The claimed deployment to Crimea is likely a response to the pledges of F16 entering the battlespace to put pressure on supplier governments including the US and also psychological pressure on Ukraine cambatants. In other words it is the same tactic of performance uncertainty to force calculation onto the side of caution, together with adding internal pressure to complicate and potentially delay training and donations of F16's from and European governments and the US permissions in the run up to the elections.

Then there is the issue of how many S500's Russia actually has. Probably less than a handfull. The system is undoubtedly expensive and like the su57 has no combat experience. Knowing that the S500 may be in theatre will make it a prime target for elimination.
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So what is S-500? S-500 is a long-range air and missile defense system operated by the VKS (Russian Aerospace Forces).

It is a direct derivative of S-300V, the principal long-range maneuver SAM operated by the SV (Russian Ground Forces).

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President Zelenskyy…

🇺🇸 Today is a truly historic day. We signed the strongest agreement between Ukraine and the United States since our independence.…..

​​​​​……The agreement clearly states that America supports Ukraine’s efforts to gain victory in this war. The agreement includes provisions for advanced defense systems like Patriot and fighter jet squadrons—that’s right, plural, squadrons—including, but not limited to, F-16s.

The document also details the supply of necessary weapons, their joint production, and strengthening of our countries' defense industries through cooperation. This will provide not only security, but also new good jobs for Ukrainians and Americans.….

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Video….

💥🔥 In Moscow, the premises of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, where Su series aircraft are developed, are on fire.
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DoD Office of Inspector General:

In our audit of the DoD’s revaluation of support provided to #Ukraine, we found that the DoD did not comply with federal law and overvalued defense articles provided to Ukraine by $1.9 billion. To learn more, read our report here:

https://www.dodig.mil/reports.html/A...hrough-presid/

Audit of the DoD’s Revaluation of the Support Provided to Ukraine Through Presidential Drawdown Authority (Report No. DODIG‑2024‑095)
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Just watching the news about the new multibillion $ packages from the EU and the $ from the USA...
Besides, that some of these monies seem to be from the $Interest$ that Russia should receive (so no actual outlay) - And that Poland and others have stepped up to the plate is great news, albeit some funds and materials are still 'Later this year'.

It seems to me, in my fickle mind that the 'West' is starting to go for it...
Upping the pressure, now.

I wonder if Five Eyes knows something we don't.

I've said previously; that the 'West' cannot allow Putin to win. The Russian 'Bureau's' that (apparently, Putin still has to get the ok from)), may be thinking it's not going too well for Russia [Considering the continuing fall in Gas/Oil revenue and the Ruble decline - AFAWK] and that other people in the background may have to have 'words; with Putin?

How much is really left in this National Wealth Fund that Russia built up really quickly - amazingly a year, for some unknown reason!! - just before they invaded UKR?
No-one "The West' talks about what they thought about as this surprising massive increase in the NWF was going on.
Remember Macron going personally to see Putin months before the invasion...? The West [Five Eyes] knew!

10 years ago it was Crimea.
[NB: I wonder if these Crimea attacks are going to be another D-Day thing?] I understand that one shouldn't say these things on social media as "Lips sink Ships", but is Putin thinking the same thing?
Now it's half of Ukraine.
All of Putin's ideas of 'going back to the old days', is that in another 10 years, he will (from the back benches), be pushing...!

It's going to be far cheaper and many lives saved to stop him now, than in another 10-20 years.

However, the weapon 'Safety/Security' technology is big $. Russia/China will build better stuff and the 'West' will build better 'anti' Russia/China stuff.
Wash - Rinse - Repeat....
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Originally Posted by Obba
I wonder if Five Eyes knows something we don't...?
Unless they know things we don't I want my money back!
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Armenia to pull out of the Russian led CSTO organisation.



https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1800884961635099126
Timing now or in near future looks pretty good to me, the Russian state and Putty power is reaching its weakest now. No room left to put out another fire.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
AA radars have software that enables them to filter out things that they don't want to see e.g. small objects moving at less than x knots to eliminate birds from the display. Obviously no idea what parameters were set here, but it could be one explanation ....as could be being asleep.
So, when your biggest threat is drone, one filters out that stuff ? Oh, Russia......
Not sure, whether these attacks were drones or one of the multiple acronyms supplied from Western countries.
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Originally Posted by tdracer
Putin keeps painting himself deeper and deeper into a corner - making increasingly difficult (impossible) to get out and maintain power (and perhaps his life).
I shudder to think what he might do when it becomes clear that he has absolutely no way out.
I just pray sanity prevails amount those he commands to carry out his "this is the end" orders...
The same thoughts are popping up for me, with Gazprom in disarray, the whole Russian state will start to tumble ......
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
We haven’t had a good rant in a while



https://x.com/realpeacenotwar/status...85342898913677
Hmmm, he still doesn't get it, his favorable political system is the cause of all these issues ?????
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More empty threats and red lines from Kremlin. "last chance or else". After more than 800 days of "the Else" already this sounds a bit lame.


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"The next one will be a surrender offer" - someone will have to reply in the traditional manner, "I'm sorry old chap. We couldn't possibly accept your surrender. We simply haven't the space."
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Ukraine's 68th Jaeger Brigade says it 'destroyed entire Russian tank company.'

Ukraine's 68th Jaeger Brigade released a video on June 14 purporting to show its forces taking out an entire Russian tank company during fighting in the Pokrovsk direction.

According to a post on Facebook, eight Kremlin tanks and eight infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) were destroyed.

https://kyivindependent.com/ukraines...-tank-company/

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Germany has announced the transfer of new military aid to Ukraine

According to the German government website, the aid package will include:

🔹 10 Leopard 1A1 tanks and ammunition for them;
🔹 20 Marder tracked infantry vehicles and ammunition;
🔹 IRIS-T SLM medium-range surface-to-air missile system;
🔹 IRIS-T SLS short-range surface-to-air missile system;
🔹 3 HIMARS rocket artillery systems;
🔹 2 Dachs armored engineer vehicles;
🔹 armored repair and recovery vehicle Bergepanzer 2;
🔹 4 mine clearance vehicles Wisent 1 with spare parts;
🔹 16 fuel tankers;
🔹 ammunition;
🔹 boats;
🔹 small arms and other.
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Tonight, Ukrainian drones (reportedly over 30) targeted Russia's Morozovsk airbase, home to a number of Russian Air Force Su-30/34/35 strike aircraft.

Numerous explosions could be heard near the base, with smoke and flames also spotted rising nearby.


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Before and after video comparison…

The aftermath of Ukraine's recent strike on Morozovsk air base in Russia is visible in new satellite imagery.

The base was last struck by Ukraine earlier this year in April.

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Linked article contains video.You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

​​​​​​​https://x.com/naforaccoon/status/180...HhlFHGKbTPQr_A
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Vaping FPV gamer bro destroying hundreds of Russian troops.



20 year old Ukrainian has eliminated hundreds of russian using his FPV VR skills

https://www.scrippsnews.com/world/eu...sive-evolution

Inside Ukrainian FPV Kamikaze drone unit with ace pilot 'Darwin'
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Originally Posted by Uberteknik
S500 is designed to supplement the S400 system and shares many common components. It extends the range covered out to a claimed 600Km and, according to the marketing, can engage both hypersonic and ballistic missiles as well as satellites, cruise missiles and aircraft etc.

The claimed deployment to Crimea is likely a response to the pledges of F16 entering the battlespace to put pressure on supplier governments including the US and also psychological pressure on Ukraine cambatants. In other words it is the same tactic of performance uncertainty to force calculation onto the side of caution, together with adding internal pressure to complicate and potentially delay training and donations of F16's from and European governments and the US permissions in the run up to the elections.

Then there is the issue of how many S500's Russia actually has. Probably less than a handfull. The system is undoubtedly expensive and like the su57 has no combat experience. Knowing that the S500 may be in theatre will make it a prime target for elimination.
Denys Davidov said three battalions of three systems per battalion and (probably ) eight launchers per system. He didn't know if they would send one battalion or all three to Crimea.

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