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Old 10th Jun 2024, 11:51
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Starlink all in Kharkiv region.

First reaction, they’ve found a way to locate Starlink terminals.

Second reaction, based on the reduced number of tanks and number of abandoned IFV, They’re leaving their vehicles and retreating on foot - because drones have stopped fuel getting through?

Interesting that the Ukrainians lost an Abrams, I thought they’d been withdrawn from the front. Their loss of tanks and IFV may by indicative of an offensive pushing the Russians back, maybe linked to the Russians abandoning their IFVs above.



The best two on this ORAC is "Tree" Lancet hitting a Decoy supposedly a Howitzer and an SPG!
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Part [some] of the F-16 fighter jets handed over to Ukraine will be stationed at foreign airbases.

This was reported by the Ukrainian service of Radio Liberty with a reference to the head of the aviation command of the Air Force of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Serhiy Holubtsov.

According to Holubtsov, the deployment of F-16 fighter jets to air bases abroad is dictated by the issue of ensuring their safety.

F-16s and the airfields where they are based outside Ukraine will become a legitimate target for the Russian military if they take part in combat missions - head of the State Duma defense committee Andrei Kartapolov


This really needs a nuance. He said:

"There is a number that will go to Ukraine. There are a certain number of aircraft that will be stored at secure air bases, outside of Ukraine, so that they are not targeted here. And this will be our reserve in case of need for replacement of faulty planes during routine maintenance.

​​​​​​​That is, so that we can constantly have a certain number of aircraft in the operational inventory, which will correspond to the number of pilots we will have. There will be more pilots - there will be more planes in Ukraine."

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Perhaps more than 3….

BREAKING:

Ukrainian missiles struck 3 Russian air defense systems last night.

1 x S-400 air defence system in Dzhankoi and 2 x S-300s in Yevpatoriya and Chornomorske.




After the night attack on occupied Crimea, several fires can be observed on the FIRMS monitoring system. Looking at the exact locations, these are mostly open fields which could indicate positions of air defense complexes. Let's wait for satellite footage.


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Well that cage worked well…

Brutal murder of a Russian “turtle” by drone operators of the 46th brigade of Ukraine.
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Reference the repeated ATACMS strikes on Russian AD systems in Crimea….

Russian air defense soldiers have been ordered to evacuate their families from Crimea to the Russian Southern Military District - Atesh military movement reports.

According to their information, air defense systems are also moved from Crimea to Belgorod region of Russia.





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Supposedly the location of one of the knocked out radar systems.

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The Headquarters of the Russian units in the Kharkiv region is no more.

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Two of the missile sites believed to have been hit

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Now they have had a little accident with their ferries, they are hauling fuel over the rail bridge again.

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A Russian lubber yard burns post strike.

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In one, the reason behind the war.

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
In one, the reason behind the war.
I think some clarification is called for. It may well be the reason Putin is making his land grab, in between all the other 'justifications' that have come out of the Kremlin. I would like to think coming to Ukraine's aid has been motivated in the West mainly by disgust at the crude violence being inflicted on them by a gangster state. If future friendly trade and cooperation is mutually beneficial, so be it.
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I'm with Video Mixdown on this one. The west needs to support Ukraine because it is the moral and ethical right thing to do.
It could well be that Putins gamble was because he wants the minerals but, personally, l doubt it. I suspect it is all about his dream of reestablishing the USSR. Russia has a great deal of mineral wealth already and l believe that China will be having some of that as the price for their support so far.
Senator Graham should maybe have paused for thought before handing a propoganda gift to the cynics and further undermining western resolve.
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Higher res views of the damaged Russian flight line.

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Originally Posted by 134brat
I'm with Video Mixdown on this one. The west needs to support Ukraine because it is the moral and ethical right thing to do.
It could well be that Putins gamble was because he wants the minerals but, personally, l doubt it. I suspect it is all about his dream of reestablishing the USSR. Russia has a great deal of mineral wealth already and l believe that China will be having some of that as the price for their support so far.
Senator Graham should maybe have paused for thought before handing a propoganda gift to the cynics and further undermining western resolve.
There are lots of examples of the moral and ethical thing not being done. In this case though, I think that, fortunately, self-interest aligns with the moral and ethical course in an obvious enough way.
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I had the honor of studying with these guys at the same military college. I had the honor to serve with them in the same military unit and, at the time of the full-scale invasion, perform combat tasks in the same unit. It's a pity that I was angry from the very beginning because I was wounded and didn't feel the joy when I beat the Russians. Thank you guys for taking maximum revenge for me and the guys who died. You can count how many tigers the Russians destroyed on a machine


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Oh dear, never mind, this is what happens when you wage a war against the Country of your ships engine suppliers.

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Lol, careless talk.

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