Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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Top of Ukraine’s wish list because so many are available as most European Air Forces are retiring them as they are replaced by 5th gen fighters.
I am sure they’d love Typhoon, Rafale or F-35 but no-one has any they want to give away.
I am sure they’d love Typhoon, Rafale or F-35 but no-one has any they want to give away.
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Watch the driver duck, I doubt it helped him though, that UAV was an RPG armed version.
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Norway sold theirs to Romania, the Dutch have sold two thirds of their fleet to Draken for Red Air contract work, the Belgian's are using their's until all life ex'd, which only leaves the Danes fleet left, if the USA don't hand over some before being turned into QF-16 drone targets.
I would think peacetime and wartime life ex are two different things. Denmark has been mentioned as has the Dutch.
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Bear with me on this as a lot of links to try and build up a picture of what is happening.
Ok Strikes reported on Mariupol.
helicopter’s moving to Mariupol earlier
They’re various reports at what was hit and with what. Storm Shadow and HIMARS get a mention
The debate as to what was used.
Ok Strikes reported on Mariupol.
helicopter’s moving to Mariupol earlier
They’re various reports at what was hit and with what. Storm Shadow and HIMARS get a mention
The debate as to what was used.
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How close to the 8000 hr mark the rest of the fleet are is another matter. Belgium isn't being even mentioned, just Dutch and Danes so far.
Dutch still have one squadron left, plus the Danes fleet of about 30 operational ones left, would give about 40-45 jets for Ukraine?
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War or no war, you cannot keep a farmer from working his land, tank or no tank.
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Norway sold theirs to Romania, the Dutch have sold two thirds of their fleet to Draken for Red Air contract work, the Belgian's are using their's until all life ex'd, which only leaves the Danes fleet left, if the USA don't hand over some before being turned into QF-16 drone targets.
People talk about as if theres this big stockpile of F-16 just sitting around. There isn't they are popular aircraft so retirement announcements are followed up quickly be announcement they are being sold to someone else
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Portugal has joined the coalition to train pilots and Groundcrew.
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It says the US will provide some according to a press statement.
Which raises the question - does mr E. Prigozin get an airplane ticket to Khartoum, or stay in Bakhmut? Hard to tell which side of the ledger his performance falls.
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I reckon he and his senior officers are bugging out completely. Surely he couldn't risk not getting whacked by at least one group of elites when he comes out of Ukraine.
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I do not know if this is a direct quote on Twitter but the interesting wording is highlighted. So does that mean other types are being looked at
Biden told G7 leaders the United States will support an effort to train Ukrainian pilots on advanced aircraft, including F-16s. The decision marks a stark turnaround for Biden, who previously said he did not believe that Kyiv needed the planes.m - CNN
3) Concern is made of the time taken to teach the pilots English so that they may be able to read the manuals, and receive instruction in English. It would take a few good Ukrainian technical translators around a week to put the required documents into a language that the pilots can understand. I would assume that most of these manuals already exist in Russian and Polish, if not Ukrainian. As the British Army discovered when they started training tank crews, a few translators could cover most situations, and the bilingual volunteers that came out of the woodwork were plentiful.
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Belgium AF are due to retire their highest houred example sometime in next few months when it reaches the 8,000 hrs mark.
How close to the 8000 hr mark the rest of the fleet are is another matter. Belgium isn't being even mentioned, just Dutch and Danes so far.
Dutch still have one squadron left, plus the Danes fleet of about 30 operational ones left, would give about 40-45 jets for Ukraine?
How close to the 8000 hr mark the rest of the fleet are is another matter. Belgium isn't being even mentioned, just Dutch and Danes so far.
Dutch still have one squadron left, plus the Danes fleet of about 30 operational ones left, would give about 40-45 jets for Ukraine?
I am well aware that truth is the first casualty before and after a war starts, however I fail to understand why, after months of being told that Russia has almost no missiles left, they are still raining down across Ukraine, 30 or so almost every night, It would also seem that when we were being told that Russia is running out of heavy weapons, and a significant number of troops were being decimated, that they are still fielding enough to hold the Donbas, Crimea and other eastern regions of the country.
Is the West and Ukraine so totally overcome with a need to misrepresent the situation, as to make one wonder where the real truth lies? Perhaps I have not been sufficiently enlightened in these matters and need more fervent indoctrination.
Does anyone here have any logical and informed reason as to why I should consider changing my view?
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Is the West and Ukraine so totally overcome with a need to misrepresent the situation, as to make one wonder where the real truth lies? Perhaps I have not been sufficiently enlightened in these matters and need more fervent indoctrination.
Does anyone here have any logical and informed reason as to why I should consider changing my view?
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