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Old 1st Feb 2024, 12:02
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So with that Corvette gone they are down to two in the Black Sea region, as one was lost in Sevastopol as well. Considering Ukraine does not have a Navy as such, Russia isn't fairing well in all things Nautical.

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Russia testing an installed Fagot ATGM on a drone, it doesn't look very stable so aiming it will be a bitch, I wonder if that is why they are test firing on the ground as well.

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Errrmmm, I take it this is laying a smoke screen to drift towards the Ukrainian lines.

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Russia takes out an Iris T decoy.

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A Russian surrendering to a drone after his comrade is killed.

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Stills of the Corvette damage


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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Russia testing an installed Fagot ATGM on a drone, it doesn't look very stable so aiming it will be a bitch, I wonder if that is why they are test firing on the ground as well.



https://twitter.com/tungphat1/status...12218142351758
Even firing it from the ground seems like a not horrible capability (assuming there's a remote aiming capability - some kind of precision aim after you land). Basically just a highly mobile atgm launcher rather than an airborne atgm launcher, but a decent concept regardless.
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Is that a laser flash just before the missile hits?
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What puzzles me is how UKA could know that RuA would use such an expensive missile ? Since this decoy was within 10 km of the border they could have used a Lancet drone and that would have been a big minus to UKA comparing the cost of the very expensive decoy to a cheap drone.

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Is that a laser flash just before the missile hits?
I only see the jet-exhaust of the missile for a second or two.

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Nice! That will need a bit more than a few soft-wood wedges!

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Originally Posted by Davef68
Is that a laser flash just before the missile hits?
If it was moving, it wasn't a laser flash. Despite what you see in the movies, they travel at 186,000 mps so they are basically on or off.
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What puzzles me is how UKA could know that RuA would use such an expensive missile ? Since this decoy was within 10 km of the border they could have used a Lancet drone and that would have been a big minu to UKA comparing the cost of the very expensive decoy to a cheap drone.
Very expensive decoy?? It'll just be a scaffold with some plywood and tarpaulin covering with a washing machine motor to turn the 'radar'.
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Very expensive decoy?? It'll just be a scaffold with some plywood and tarpaulin covering with a washing machine motor to turn the 'radar'.
See 13:00 below. I would say that is pretty high-quality and a world away from your description.

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Another ship is burning 80km south of Crimea according the Crimean Wind Telegram channel.

Russians travel with transponders off, so we can't yet confirm which ship it is.






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Hopefully this puts the a RaaF F-18's to rest.

https://english.nv.ua/amp/ukraine-re...-50389048.html

https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-a...0240130-p5f0zo


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"Hopefully"? Right. Seems to be more of a dis-information move to me.
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Russian Air Force Lieutenant General Alexander Tatarenko confirmed killed in the Ukrainian strike on the Belbek military airfield in occupied Crimea.




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Result of the Ukrainian attacks on refineries and export sites…

Russia cuts gasoline, diesel exports to offset refinery outages", — Reuters

🔥 Successful SBU drone attacks on major oil refineries reduced Russian exports of oil products by almost a third. In January, gasoline exports fell by 37%, diesel exports by 23%.


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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
Very expensive decoy?? It'll just be a scaffold with some plywood and tarpaulin covering with a washing machine motor to turn the 'radar'.

They are a bit more than that, these days with drones and their optics they have to be able to fool the enemy into a launch, here is one of the decoys close up.



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