Ukraine War Thread Part 2
Is that correct - do most SAM's not have expanding rod or fragmentation warheads that explode perpendicular to the centreline of the missle / direction of flight? The majority of SAM warhead explosions that show any distinct pattern to the explosion show the primary explosion & an expansion at 90° to the line of flight (90° to what we are seeing here).
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Those look more mushroom-shaped, cap at top, and they do still have directionality to them. Still, if was a SAM coming down, as Paul C suggests...
Germany announced more military support for Ukraine in 2024. Notably 80+ Leopard 1a5's and 450 APV's, and IRIS-T.
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Maybe, just maybe the ghastly Elon Musk's Skynet internet satellites might begin to allow Ruzzia's poor benighted people to finally learn the truth about the world that they don't live in, and see how badly they've been tricked and deluded by their foul diktators in the Kremlin...
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Russia in continuing to hype his global warfare reminds me of the little fat fook in North Korea, starve your population and deprive them of outside information, while telling them everyone is out to get them keeps the population under control, for fear of invasion and losing what little they have, while keeping a few in power.
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The ghastly refers to Musk rather than his satellites? And didn’t Musk shut down one of his systems to foil a seaborne attack by Ukraine?
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Still, seeing that effect would depend on the viewer being at some angle to the flight path; if the rocket were traveling toward or away from the viewer there would be no indication of directionality
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please watch again the X video showing the crash from a crossing inside the Yablonovo village and listen to the blast.
I measured the distance using this satellite picture of the crash site.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/25/e...ntl/index.html
The distance is between 6.9 km and 7.1 km (the crash site is large)
When watching the video, think that the fireball is at 7 km distance.
When hearing the blast that triggers a car alarm, think that you are 7 km away.
I very much doubt that this is only a kerosene deflagration.
I still think that there were some HE ammunitions in the plane.
And a large quantity of them.
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That clip of the IL-76 going in does not tell the whole story, watch this clip at about 20 secs. missile strike? on board explosion?
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...97262829568288
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...97262829568288
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In regards to the upside down mushroom cloud formation from a SAM. Remember this clip from over a year ago where a KA-52 was shot down? The cloud looks very similar and you can see the missile coming.
You can see the aircraft at 3-4 secs.just ahead of the white artic.PRETTY LOW AS WELL...
In regards to the upside down mushroom cloud formation from a SAM. Remember this clip from over a year ago where a KA-52 was shot down? The cloud looks very similar and you can see the missile coming.
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/15...DRpbnkmrMsAAAA
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/15...DRpbnkmrMsAAAA
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Meleagertoo,
please watch again the X video showing the crash from a crossing inside the Yablonovo village and listen to the blast.
I measured the distance using this satellite picture of the crash site.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/25/e...ntl/index.html
The distance is between 6.9 km and 7.1 km (the crash site is large)
When watching the video, think that the fireball is at 7 km distance.
When hearing the blast that triggers a car alarm, think that you are 7 km away.
I very much doubt that this is only a kerosene deflagration.
I still think that there were some HE ammunitions in the plane.
And a large quantity of them.
please watch again the X video showing the crash from a crossing inside the Yablonovo village and listen to the blast.
I measured the distance using this satellite picture of the crash site.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/25/e...ntl/index.html
The distance is between 6.9 km and 7.1 km (the crash site is large)
When watching the video, think that the fireball is at 7 km distance.
When hearing the blast that triggers a car alarm, think that you are 7 km away.
I very much doubt that this is only a kerosene deflagration.
I still think that there were some HE ammunitions in the plane.
And a large quantity of them.
The blast that could be heard in the video is NOT the blast of the crash: it's too early and the blast of the crash should be audible 3 or 4 seconds AFTER the end of the video.
If we assume 7 km and a temperature of 0°C, the blast should be heard 21 seconds after the crash.
Therefore, the explosion heard on the video can only be the SAM hit against the plane and this event must have happened 3-4 seconds before the start of the video.
Sorry for my mistake.
See #8036....
Are we getting into a similar discussion to the one about how artillery shells travel? The agonising progress as the myriad complexities were explained. How about rocket launched at Il 76, brings it down. The intricacies of a puff of smoke really are of little interest.
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Dear Colleagues:
After thinking about this, the curious case of the British ship moving Russian Naptha - which was hit by a Houthi missile - has been moved to the Unpleasantries thread in Jet Blast.
The core issue looks to be sanctions evasion, and the bad luck of the ship company to get hit while carrying that...so not really fitting into this thread.
Carry on.
After thinking about this, the curious case of the British ship moving Russian Naptha - which was hit by a Houthi missile - has been moved to the Unpleasantries thread in Jet Blast.
The core issue looks to be sanctions evasion, and the bad luck of the ship company to get hit while carrying that...so not really fitting into this thread.
Carry on.
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Crikey, from the little Ukrainian drone with two deployable mines to this…
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