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Old 17th May 2023, 20:54
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they abort if an earlier missile hits the target first.

Forgive me, non mil person here, what is the reason for that? What's wrong with hitting an enemy target more than once? (to be sure, to be sure)!
Because an aircraft hit by a Patriot missile is no longer there to be hit by another?
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Old 17th May 2023, 21:04
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Because an aircraft hit by a Patriot missile is no longer there to be hit by another?
Er, yes of course. For some reason I was thinking of ground targets forgetting that Patriot is surface-to-air. I plead dementia as my defence!
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Old 17th May 2023, 21:15
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Originally Posted by Rockie_Rapier
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Reviewed by John Simpson.
I have a half-remembered essay rattling around in my head, regarding lessons learned from British army pre-Great War large scale manoeuvres. This stated [I think!] that junior officers were required to make decisions enabling the stated objectives of the grand plan to be achieved . This was to be regardless of disobeying detailed orders by the intermediate CoC.
It made and makes sense. A major i/c a wing [half a battalion] tasked in detail to proceed post-haste from A to B but finding a lightly-guarded river crossing en-route is duty bound to seize it, and thus never arrive at B. His irate lt col is likely to be quickly calmed by the brigadier's praise.

Russian behaviour in combat suggests neglible room for initiative, whereas initiative, within the grand plan, is demanded by circumstances.
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Because it requires US authorization which Biden is refusing to provide….

​​​​​​​The United Kingdom, Netherlands, Belgium, Poland, and France have announced that they are now prepared to Create a Coalition of Countries that will begin the Training and Transfer of F-16 “Fighting Falcons” to Ukraine, however they have all stated that while they will soon be prepared to Train Ukrainian Pilots they will not yet be able to give their own Inventory of F-16s to Ukraine.
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Poland has said they cannot provide them as they only have sufficient for their own countries defence.
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Wait until the end for his version of moving to a more favourable position..

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The partisan war in Crimea have derailed a grain train


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Damn


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Russian missile strikes that sent black smoke billowing into the skies over Kyiv on Thursday form part of the wave of “unprecedented” attacks on the Ukrainian capital, officials have said.

Air raid sirens wailed from 7am as Moscow launched cruise missiles at Kyiv, including from strategic bombers in the Caspian Sea. It was the ninth consecutive night of large-scale strikes, with Russia braced for an expected Ukrainian counteroffensive. There were no reports of injuries but debris fell across eastern Kyiv, starting fires and causing damage.

Ukraine said it had destroyed 29 of 30 missiles launched from land, sea and air.

“All targets over Kyiv were shot down,” General Valery Zaluzhny, head of the armed forces, said. One person was killed and two injured in a missile strike on an industrial facility in Odesa, the port city on the Black Sea....
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Hmm seems the Patriots are no match for these hypersonic missiles after all.. lolzo

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Another Frankentank by Russia


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Poor guy..

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I'm nervous.

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As someone who caught a wingtip on the ground and spun in, a couple of days ago, I find these low flying videos a bit disconcerting ('twas only on a hanglider, so just a broken upright and no injury).
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Originally Posted by nevillestyke
As someone who caught a wingtip on the ground and spun in, a couple of days ago, I find these low flying videos a bit disconcerting ('twas only on a hanglider, so just a broken upright and no injury).
Then you won't want to see this Neville from the accidents thread. He / she was lucky

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Low altitude Su25 in the rain!

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
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Low altitude Su25 in the rain!



https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/sta...Cw8emioYQuAAAA
What kind of accuracy does something like that have - +/- 500 m ? Does the pilot have any kind of aiming device, or simply fire at position X at 500 ' altitude ?
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Russian triage, Heck they never even took the mag off, I bet it has one up the spout too.

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