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Russia is changing the terms of service for Prisoners enlisted in the army and they are to put it bluntly likely to curb recruitment.
One comment I heard from a Russian Volunteer was his service in Ukraine was for the period of his contract if not longer, while a prisoner at least got to go home in 6 months.
One comment I heard from a Russian Volunteer was his service in Ukraine was for the period of his contract if not longer, while a prisoner at least got to go home in 6 months.
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With the fires in St Petersburg and all that ice forming on the LNG storage site that was destroyed by drones, this is probably unsurprising…
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The way Ukrainians live around missile attacks. I decided to translate it for you. by Tatusia Bo
"My first fear after the start of the full-scale invasion is quite trivial. Like, in fact, everyone's. I fear a missile would strike while I am taking a shower. And I could see these pictures in my head — they would clear the rubble and take out my plumpy, naked, and wet body. So, I learned to wash within 3 minutes between alerts. I would jump out of the shower and be like, "Whew, not this time".
My second fear is the missile-and-the-toilet thing. I have had it since a missile attack on the neighborhood in the early morning. In fact, I was woken up by a loud bang. For I had solemnly slept through the air raid alert. The explosion, I open my eyes, and I'm already standing in the common corridor with my baby in my arms. Then there was a series of bangs, everything was shaking. And suddenly a pause... And I needed to use the toilet so badly that I was crying. I thought "Well, whatever. I'll go for it". I went to the toilet, and as soon as I sat on it, there was a looooud bang. I was tossed up in the air along with the toilet. After that, I fear a missile attack while being in the toilet. Handsome and strong firefighters would clear it all up and find me riding a white... horse. And journalists would write: "A Woman with No Panties Found on the Toilet". And all of Kyiv would zoom in on the picture, looking at the scars and birthmarks, trying to figure out who had pissed away, well, I mean, missed the alarm.
As for panties... We were brought up mostly in post-Soviet times. Teenagers of our generation were not interested in looking under skirts. Because everyone's underpants were the same. Serhii's mom's, Olya's, and Serhii's classmate's - all the same. They were so ugly. Mothers of that time always kept new underpants in the closet for holidays and when they went to see a doctor. No matter what happened to a person, the first thing to take care of was underwear.
And then the war... Once I felt a little better, the first thing I did was buying a pair of nice new panties. 'Cause, you know, what if all that happened — a missile, rubble, firefighters, the media... And maybe they would eventually write "A Woman's Body Found Under Rubble in Lovely Panties". They would write that, won't they? One of my friends, Lena, upon returning home after de-occupation, was most offended by the Russians because they neglected even household appliances in the house, but beige, seamless, very comfortable and therefore well-worn underpants were stolen by the bastards.
My mother also had her own fear. What if a missile hit her house, everything was smashed, chickens running around, ducks were not fed, and the vegetable garden was overgrown with weeds? That's what she would tell me: "I am weeding the vegetable garden, my dear, in case a missile hits, so I have no weeds all over my potatoes."
On December 31, the Russians "greeted" us all day long with "congratulations" either by Shaheds or missiles. Neighbors from the upper floors gathered near my door in the common hallway. They would gather and grumble that the damned Russians were not letting them finish preparing the holiday meal. Someone brought out sparkling wine, and I brought out glasses: "Well, cheers to air defense." "If they shell our house and I burn down the duck I've been cooking for three days, I won't take responsibility for my actions," said a neighbor from the 9th floor. And for some reason, I believe her.
On the morning of January 2, the Russians launched their most massive missile attack on Ukraine. When tons of explosives were flying over Kyiv, my friend Katia politely went to the subway, where we hide from missiles. And so people were shuddering from the explosions in the subway, and Katia would text us in a common chat: "Oh, f@ck, there was such an explosion I almost dropped my croissant." We would write back, dumbfounded: "Katia, what croissant? Where are you?" And Katya replied with such calmness: "I went out for coffee, what's wrong? I am a Ukrainian woman. I want coffee and a croissant, and no f@cking Russian Kalibr (missile - ed.) is going to stop me". Let's skip the fact that, despite the explosions all over the city, there was an open croissant shop, which is a topic for another conversation.
But Katia, it turns out, is afraid of dying from a missile without drinking coffee and having a crispy croissant. We are afraid. Oh, how scared we are. Personally, during the loudest explosion, I was pressing myself to the floor thinking, "F@ck, am I going to die in the old robe?" and anyway I donated money for drones. We are scared, scared when missiles are flying at another city, scared when the news reports on an air attack on the defense line near the city of M. We seem to be afraid every second of our lives.
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The way Ukrainians live around missile attacks. I decided to translate it for you. by Tatusia Bo
"My first fear after the start of the full-scale invasion is quite trivial. Like, in fact, everyone's. I fear a missile would strike while I am taking a shower. And I could see these pictures in my head — they would clear the rubble and take out my plumpy, naked, and wet body. So, I learned to wash within 3 minutes between alerts. I would jump out of the shower and be like, "Whew, not this time".
My second fear is the missile-and-the-toilet thing. I have had it since a missile attack on the neighborhood in the early morning. In fact, I was woken up by a loud bang. For I had solemnly slept through the air raid alert. The explosion, I open my eyes, and I'm already standing in the common corridor with my baby in my arms. Then there was a series of bangs, everything was shaking. And suddenly a pause... And I needed to use the toilet so badly that I was crying. I thought "Well, whatever. I'll go for it". I went to the toilet, and as soon as I sat on it, there was a looooud bang. I was tossed up in the air along with the toilet. After that, I fear a missile attack while being in the toilet. Handsome and strong firefighters would clear it all up and find me riding a white... horse. And journalists would write: "A Woman with No Panties Found on the Toilet". And all of Kyiv would zoom in on the picture, looking at the scars and birthmarks, trying to figure out who had pissed away, well, I mean, missed the alarm.
As for panties... We were brought up mostly in post-Soviet times. Teenagers of our generation were not interested in looking under skirts. Because everyone's underpants were the same. Serhii's mom's, Olya's, and Serhii's classmate's - all the same. They were so ugly. Mothers of that time always kept new underpants in the closet for holidays and when they went to see a doctor. No matter what happened to a person, the first thing to take care of was underwear.
And then the war... Once I felt a little better, the first thing I did was buying a pair of nice new panties. 'Cause, you know, what if all that happened — a missile, rubble, firefighters, the media... And maybe they would eventually write "A Woman's Body Found Under Rubble in Lovely Panties". They would write that, won't they? One of my friends, Lena, upon returning home after de-occupation, was most offended by the Russians because they neglected even household appliances in the house, but beige, seamless, very comfortable and therefore well-worn underpants were stolen by the bastards.
My mother also had her own fear. What if a missile hit her house, everything was smashed, chickens running around, ducks were not fed, and the vegetable garden was overgrown with weeds? That's what she would tell me: "I am weeding the vegetable garden, my dear, in case a missile hits, so I have no weeds all over my potatoes."
On December 31, the Russians "greeted" us all day long with "congratulations" either by Shaheds or missiles. Neighbors from the upper floors gathered near my door in the common hallway. They would gather and grumble that the damned Russians were not letting them finish preparing the holiday meal. Someone brought out sparkling wine, and I brought out glasses: "Well, cheers to air defense." "If they shell our house and I burn down the duck I've been cooking for three days, I won't take responsibility for my actions," said a neighbor from the 9th floor. And for some reason, I believe her.
On the morning of January 2, the Russians launched their most massive missile attack on Ukraine. When tons of explosives were flying over Kyiv, my friend Katia politely went to the subway, where we hide from missiles. And so people were shuddering from the explosions in the subway, and Katia would text us in a common chat: "Oh, f@ck, there was such an explosion I almost dropped my croissant." We would write back, dumbfounded: "Katia, what croissant? Where are you?" And Katya replied with such calmness: "I went out for coffee, what's wrong? I am a Ukrainian woman. I want coffee and a croissant, and no f@cking Russian Kalibr (missile - ed.) is going to stop me". Let's skip the fact that, despite the explosions all over the city, there was an open croissant shop, which is a topic for another conversation.
But Katia, it turns out, is afraid of dying from a missile without drinking coffee and having a crispy croissant. We are afraid. Oh, how scared we are. Personally, during the loudest explosion, I was pressing myself to the floor thinking, "F@ck, am I going to die in the old robe?" and anyway I donated money for drones. We are scared, scared when missiles are flying at another city, scared when the news reports on an air attack on the defense line near the city of M. We seem to be afraid every second of our lives.
Author: Tatusia Bo
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Belarusian Officer found in Ukraine serving in Russian Army…. He didn’t survive.
With the fires in St Petersburg and all that ice forming on the LNG storage site that was destroyed by drones, this is probably unsurprising…
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...15102431916180
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...15102431916180
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The Minister of Digital Transformation of Ukraine, Mykhailo Fedorov, reports that a new trench radio electronic warfare system has been developed for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which can be a backpack and jam the FPV of kamikaze drones. It creates white noise that makes Russian drones uncontrollable.
The radius of action is 250 meters. It is already in serial production.
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The radius of action is 250 meters. It is already in serial production.
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Russian transport plane Il-76 crashes in Belgorod Oblast.
Il-76 military plane crashed in Belgorod region according to russian media. The moment of the plane crash in the BNR was caught on camera. According to russian media, there were 63 people on board
Il-76 military plane crashed in Belgorod region according to russian media. The moment of the plane crash in the BNR was caught on camera. According to russian media, there were 63 people on board
Bilateral support, security arrangements, or military exercises are surely not prohibited by simply being a member of the EU, are they?
I seem to recall that the UK were training with Ukrainian forces back in the 00's and teens, both before and after Brexit? (If I recall incorrectly, by all means correct me).
I seem to recall that the UK were training with Ukrainian forces back in the 00's and teens, both before and after Brexit? (If I recall incorrectly, by all means correct me).
In #7863 I mentioned the Boats for Ukraine appeal and have received their reply - and a template letter - which I have copied below.
Thank you very much for reaching out and for your support.
We haven't found an email which would be more responsive yet. I would suggest sending an email to their general address for now ([email protected]) but if we find a better alternative, we will let you know. We also understand that contacting Home Office / Border Force might be most efficient through your local MP, and we would be happy to help with that by providing you with a template letter.
https://www.boatsforukraine.com
Template Letter
Dear [MP Name]
As your constituent and someone deeply affected by the humanitarian crisis in Ukraine, I'm writing to urge you to support the transfer of migrant boats from Dover to assist with vital medical evacuations across the Dnipro River.
As recently highlighted in the Telegraph (link 1: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/19/send-migrant-boats-dover-to-ukraine-help-war-effort-charity; link 2: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...ssian-invasion),
the Ukrainian Armed Forces have a critical need for vessels to ferry wounded soldiers across the war-torn river. While concerns about seaworthiness are understandable, the Ukrainians themselves are ready and willing to refurbish and repurpose these boats for their specific needs, leveraging their expertise and determination.
Donating these boats wouldn't just offer a lifeline to Ukrainian soldiers battling for their freedom; it would also represent a cost-effective solution for the UK. Avoiding the expense of storage and eventual disposal frees up taxpayer funds for other crucial areas, while delivering a demonstrably positive impact on the international scene.
Therefore, I strongly urge you to:
Every day these boats sit idle is another day Ukrainian lives hang in the balance. Your actions can play a crucial role in turning this potential into a reality, offering practical aid and showcasing the UK's commitment to humanitarian support.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Thank you very much for reaching out and for your support.
We haven't found an email which would be more responsive yet. I would suggest sending an email to their general address for now ([email protected]) but if we find a better alternative, we will let you know. We also understand that contacting Home Office / Border Force might be most efficient through your local MP, and we would be happy to help with that by providing you with a template letter.
https://www.boatsforukraine.com
Template Letter
Dear [MP Name]
As your constituent and someone deeply affected by the humanitarian crisis in Ukraine, I'm writing to urge you to support the transfer of migrant boats from Dover to assist with vital medical evacuations across the Dnipro River.
As recently highlighted in the Telegraph (link 1: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/19/send-migrant-boats-dover-to-ukraine-help-war-effort-charity; link 2: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...ssian-invasion),
the Ukrainian Armed Forces have a critical need for vessels to ferry wounded soldiers across the war-torn river. While concerns about seaworthiness are understandable, the Ukrainians themselves are ready and willing to refurbish and repurpose these boats for their specific needs, leveraging their expertise and determination.
Donating these boats wouldn't just offer a lifeline to Ukrainian soldiers battling for their freedom; it would also represent a cost-effective solution for the UK. Avoiding the expense of storage and eventual disposal frees up taxpayer funds for other crucial areas, while delivering a demonstrably positive impact on the international scene.
Therefore, I strongly urge you to:
- Contact the Home Office and Ministry of Defence directly to advocate for swift action on this issue. Pressing officials to prioritise this life-saving initiative can make a real difference.
- Raise this matter in Parliament to bring public attention to the potential of these boats and encourage broader support for Ukrainian medical evacuation efforts.
- Sign the attached letter.
Every day these boats sit idle is another day Ukrainian lives hang in the balance. Your actions can play a crucial role in turning this potential into a reality, offering practical aid and showcasing the UK's commitment to humanitarian support.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
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With the fires in St Petersburg and all that ice forming on the LNG storage site that was destroyed by drones, this is probably unsurprising…
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...15102431916180
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...15102431916180
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Of course not prohibited. Denmark and The Netherlands are donating their F16, and training personnel. Likewise is any country free to donate whatever it likes, including money. The EU is mostly a trading union. PS: Some posters here have a lot of misconceptions about the EU, one shouldn't believe everything being posted.
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In times of crisis, the last thing that Ukraine needs is for countries able to help having to wade through EU treacle, which has the sole purpose that the EU can bask in the reflected glory of individual states. It is not only self-serving but costs the lives of Ukrainians.
EU’s Breton accuses Germany of going ‘solo’ on Ukraine aid – POLITICO
In other news, the excellent book "The Showman" by Simon Shuster on President Zelensky has dropped onto the mat. A quick skim indicates that this will be a fascinating read and a deep insight into arguably, the most significant individual of the 21st century.
EU’s Breton accuses Germany of going ‘solo’ on Ukraine aid – POLITICO
In other news, the excellent book "The Showman" by Simon Shuster on President Zelensky has dropped onto the mat. A quick skim indicates that this will be a fascinating read and a deep insight into arguably, the most significant individual of the 21st century.
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That clip of the IL-76 going in does not tell the whole story, watch this clip at about 20 secs. missile strike? on board explosion?
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Not a lot left.
more from the same source.
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UPDATE: Russia's Ministry of Defense and FSB have taken control of the IL-76 transport plane crash site in Belgorod and blocked access to the Ministry of Emergency Situations, which would be typically involved in such investigations.
Report that Ukraine shot down the plane, originally from @pravda_eng's Ukrainian military sources, have been retracted for the time being, opening a distinct possibility it was the work of Russia's own air defense.
The mammoth IL-76 military transport plane was shot down AFTER takeoff just 30 miles from the Ukrainian border. The Russians' claim that Ukrainian POWs were on board the plane for the exchange that was to take place at the border in the same region is absurd.
The plane's flight history also does not align with Russia's claim that it was transporting Ukrainian POWs toward an exchange point. The plane last arrived in Belgorod from Iran, and was shot down after take off from Belgorod heading northeast.
There has to be a reason the Russians are completely freaking out about this plane getting shot down, and it certainly isn't because of Ukrainian prisoners of war. Something (or someone) very important for Russia was on that plane, which had recently arrived from Iran.
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You just cannot beat the resilience of the Ukrainian people.
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