Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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Looks like they have an ocean going tug alongside the Novocherkassk, or what remains of her.
It must worry the Russian sailors to see what a couple of missiles can do to their vessels and the lack of self defence they appear to not have.
It must worry the Russian sailors to see what a couple of missiles can do to their vessels and the lack of self defence they appear to not have.
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When they sank the Landing ship Novocherkassk, the satellite images also show a sunken vessel that was pre attack afloat across the harbour from it. This has been identified as the UTS-150 training ship and is the second ship they hit? and sank, the other slightly damaged ship as reported was an ocean going tug that was alongside but in front of the Novocherkassk.
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Although an old training ship, it does now give the Russians the opportunity to bring their training up to date in practicing refloating the fleet. 
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Now that’s different, I like the way he then steers the drone towards the fuel tank 
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It is not that simple
I'm happy to wait on part 2 but have little confidence that it will fit in my personal first hand experience.
Edit: Read part 2.
to be honest, it's not worth the read.
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I don't know anything about modern warplanes radar, but to date Anders Puck Nielsen has seemed to be a reliable source of information and speculation. This Wikipedia link suggests that the F-16's radar range can be greater than the table above suggests:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-68
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/APG-68
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I thought it was due to moving Patriots close to Odesa to protect the city.
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Satellite views of the Sunken vessels and other ships have now fled the port.
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Close up satellite view of the damage before and after, the dock appears to have been badly damaged.
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This blows up really big, I don’t know what it is, the orange “Ship” In front of the destroyed ship, which looks like a barge with a building on it, that appears to be badly damaged too.
What amazes me was the first image (pre destruction ) was taken on December the 5th, and the second on the 26th.
Are they really that stupid to leave a ship loaded to the gunwale’s with ammunition all that time sitting beside the dock In wartime?
It should have been offloaded, the ship turned around and sailed out of the danger area.
What amazes me was the first image (pre destruction ) was taken on December the 5th, and the second on the 26th.
Are they really that stupid to leave a ship loaded to the gunwale’s with ammunition all that time sitting beside the dock In wartime?
It should have been offloaded, the ship turned around and sailed out of the danger area.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/r...imea-3zg6pckjc
Raging Putin ‘sends top brass to front’ after warship humiliation
President Putin is “completely furious” at the sinking of the Novocherkassk warship and has ordered raids across occupied Crimea in an attempt to hunt down the resistance fighters that provided intelligence on its location, according to a Ukrainian partisan group.
“The flywheel of repression is spinning,” the Atesh group wrote on Telegram. “Local residents have been raided throughout the city, their smartphones are being taken away and their houses are being searched.”
The group added: “It is reported that Putin is completely furious over the destruction of the Novocherkassk large landing ship. An order was issued to punish the Crimean air defence forces. It is expected that many commanders will be removed and sent to the front to participate in assault groups.”…..
Raging Putin ‘sends top brass to front’ after warship humiliation
President Putin is “completely furious” at the sinking of the Novocherkassk warship and has ordered raids across occupied Crimea in an attempt to hunt down the resistance fighters that provided intelligence on its location, according to a Ukrainian partisan group.
“The flywheel of repression is spinning,” the Atesh group wrote on Telegram. “Local residents have been raided throughout the city, their smartphones are being taken away and their houses are being searched.”
The group added: “It is reported that Putin is completely furious over the destruction of the Novocherkassk large landing ship. An order was issued to punish the Crimean air defence forces. It is expected that many commanders will be removed and sent to the front to participate in assault groups.”…..
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Container ship hits Russian mine in Black Sea
A container ship has struck a Russian mine in the Black Sea, Ukraine’s armed forces have said.
“The vessel lost its course and control, and a fire broke out on the upper deck,” the southern military command said on Telegram.
One person is in hospital and another was treated on board the Panama-flagged vessel, which was grounded in shallow water to prevent it sinking.
It has now been refloated and tugs are assisting its return to port.
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Now confirmed as a bulk carrier under the flag of Panama enroute to load grain in one of the Danube ports.
A container ship has struck a Russian mine in the Black Sea, Ukraine’s armed forces have said.
“The vessel lost its course and control, and a fire broke out on the upper deck,” the southern military command said on Telegram.
One person is in hospital and another was treated on board the Panama-flagged vessel, which was grounded in shallow water to prevent it sinking.
It has now been refloated and tugs are assisting its return to port.
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Now confirmed as a bulk carrier under the flag of Panama enroute to load grain in one of the Danube ports.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
1000+ casualties a day, over 5K tanks destroyed - and still they keep coming….
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
New military aid package from the USA - presumably the last until new funds are approved by Congress.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Release...e-for-ukraine/
Today, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced additional security assistance to meet Ukraine's critical security and defense needs. This announcement is the Biden Administration's fifty-fourth tranche of equipment to be provided from DoD inventories for Ukraine since August 2021. This package includes additional air defense capabilities, artillery ammunition, anti-tank weapons, and other equipment to help Ukraine counter Russia's war of aggression.
This package utilizes assistance previously authorized for Ukraine during prior fiscal years under Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA).
The capabilities in this much-needed package, valued at up to $250 million, include:
Security assistance for Ukraine is a smart investment in our national security. It deters potential aggression elsewhere in the world, while strengthening our defense industrial base and creating highly skilled jobs for the American people. It remains critical that Congress takes action as soon as possible in the new year on the President's national security supplemental request to ensure that our support for Ukraine can continue, and Ukraine is able to defend itself against Russia's ongoing attacks and consolidate and extend its battlefield gains.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Release...e-for-ukraine/
Today, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced additional security assistance to meet Ukraine's critical security and defense needs. This announcement is the Biden Administration's fifty-fourth tranche of equipment to be provided from DoD inventories for Ukraine since August 2021. This package includes additional air defense capabilities, artillery ammunition, anti-tank weapons, and other equipment to help Ukraine counter Russia's war of aggression.
This package utilizes assistance previously authorized for Ukraine during prior fiscal years under Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA).
The capabilities in this much-needed package, valued at up to $250 million, include:
- Additional munitions for National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS);
- Stinger anti-aircraft missiles;
- Air defense system components;
- Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);
- 155mm and 105mm artillery rounds;
- Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles;
- Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems;
- More than 15 million rounds of small arms ammunition;
- Demolitions munitions for obstacle clearing;
- Spare parts, medical equipment, maintenance, and other ancillary equipment.
Security assistance for Ukraine is a smart investment in our national security. It deters potential aggression elsewhere in the world, while strengthening our defense industrial base and creating highly skilled jobs for the American people. It remains critical that Congress takes action as soon as possible in the new year on the President's national security supplemental request to ensure that our support for Ukraine can continue, and Ukraine is able to defend itself against Russia's ongoing attacks and consolidate and extend its battlefield gains.