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Old 20th Nov 2023, 23:03
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The Ukrainian lad who was deported to Russia and feared conscription talks of the lies they were all told, Ukraine had lost the war and his parents did not want him back!

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Ukrainian sniper makes world record shot, 3,800m. That is one heck of a weapon..

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...4hl-cartridge/




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Originally Posted by B Fraser
There's no such thing as bad weather, there's only inadequate clothing.
True to some extent. I do solo mountaineering stuff and clothing and layers (and staying dry) are critical. Having said that, living in a muddy and freezing trench with constantly wet boots and socks et al for weeks or months on end and it becomes more than a matter of clothing.....
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Consequences…

​​​​​​​Armenia will transfer Tochka-U tactical ballistic missile systems and Osa-AK anti-aircraft missile systems to Ukraine, Russian source Rybar claims.

According to Rybar, agreements on this may have been reached during a meeting between Armen Grigoryan, Secretary of Armenia's National Security Council and Ukrainian president’s powerful chief of staff, Andrii Yermak with the assistance of the Americans.

The exact number of available launchers and missiles is unknown: according to open sources, there were at least three, but according to Rybar, several more modernized Tochkas were transferred to the Armenians by Russia.

And all of them, along with an impressive ammunition supply (up to 200 missiles), could end up in Ukraine.

At the same time, the White House is actively pushing the issue of transferring the Osa-AK anti-aircraft missile systems, which are in service with the Armenian Armed Forces, to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Their number, taking into account losses in the Second Karabakh War, can be up to 30-40 units.
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One muscovite chose not to go to war. Apparently he chose the only other option available for a regular Ivan.

A 23-year-old Muscovite shot himself at a shooting range after receiving a summons. Before his death, he wrote to friends that he did not want to go to war. Today he was supposed to arrive at the military registration and enlistment office

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Originally Posted by ORAC
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Armenia will transfer Tochka-U tactical ballistic missile systems and Osa-AK anti-aircraft missile systems to Ukraine, Russian source Rybar claims.

According to Rybar, agreements on this may have been reached during a meeting between Armen Grigoryan, Secretary of Armenia's National Security Council and Ukrainian president’s powerful chief of staff, Andrii Yermak with the assistance of the Americans.

The exact number of available launchers and missiles is unknown: according to open sources, there were at least three, but according to Rybar, several more modernized Tochkas were transferred to the Armenians by Russia.

And all of them, along with an impressive ammunition supply (up to 200 missiles), could end up in Ukraine.

At the same time, the White House is actively pushing the issue of transferring the Osa-AK anti-aircraft missile systems, which are in service with the Armenian Armed Forces, to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

Their number, taking into account losses in the Second Karabakh War, can be up to 30-40 units.

So, Vlad, how's the plan going so far?


Door #1: a 72-hour SMO, met with garlands of flowers from a gratefully "freed" populace, happy to receive the mir of Vlad in contrast to those pesky national socialists with a funny march and salute;
Door #2: out of Ladas to give away, out of body bags, grovelling to NOK to give aid and comfort to the Kremlin, a collection of bodies underneath open windows, and the 2nd greatest military force inside the Moscow beltway. Retirement looking grand.
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Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.
And the great fleas themselves, in turn, have greater fleas to go on;
While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.


“Baba Yaga” Ukrainian agridrone launching an FPV drone, extending its operational range.
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To clear up any confusion, I was referring to the Ukraine land war and the relative disparity between western and Russian supplied kit. We should be doing all we can to widen the gap in terms of capability and effectiveness.

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True to some extent. I do solo mountaineering stuff and clothing and layers (and staying dry) are critical. Having said that, living in a muddy and freezing trench with constantly wet boots and socks et al for weeks or months on end and it becomes more than a matter of clothing.....
Having waterproof boots and a spare set drying while you wearing another, will make a huge difference. Quality with quantity.

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Err.. not what one would call a prospective home.


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Russia's Devastating New Weapon Hits Enemy Positions in War's First: Video (newsweek.com)

It would appear that the Russians have some cluster munitions, and they are using them.
The article describes a "glide bomb" whose warhead has cluster munitions.
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Err.. not what one would call a prospective home.



https://twitter.com/Turk_Slav_News/s...93365161295896

Harry Potter long-range comms?
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Who gives two hoots?
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Who gives two hoots?
I regret that I have one hoot to give for my country.
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Two of Putins security chiefs have got blown up in a car bomb. That must be worrying for Putin when his security staff cannot protect themselves, let alone Putin. That’s 2 more Lt Cols out of the way for a while.

Two of Vladimir Putin’s senior security officials have suffered serious injuries after a car bombing.

Deputy interior minister Lt-Col Oleg Shumilov and criminal investigations chief Lt-Col Vladimir Pakholenko are both fighting for their lives following the blast.

The incident happened in the Ukrainian city of Luhansk, which is under Russian occupation.

Footage from the scene shows an inferno raging from the UAZ Patriot vehicle after it blew up.

https://metro.co.uk/2023/11/21/two-p...bing-19853287/
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A fire is being reported near a Thermal power plant in Crimea another post says a CHP whatever that is?

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CHP: Combined Heat and Power plant.

https://www.epa.gov/chp/what-chp
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A fire is being reported near a Thermal power plant in Crimea another post says a CHP whatever that is?



https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...30924800639144
CHP is Combined Heat and Power. You get electricity and district heating from the residual heat left in a thermal power plant. Makes the plant more efficient and is common in former Soviet satellite countries.
Also popular in Europe for heating large buildings but here often based on a gas fuelled combined cycle plant.

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Avdiivka.
Video diary of a russian occupier:
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“I don’t know what’s here, but the 200s [eliminated occupiers] are everywhere, fиcked up, on every fиcking corner. All of them in their armor are lying here in burnt heaps. Yesterday we lost 4 tanks, 7 or 8 armored personnel carriers, and not counting how many infantry fighting vehicles there are... And it’s all simple on an area of 100 by 100 meters.’’

He also says that out of 30 people, 5 from their group are still alive and cluster munitions are flying at them.
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Originally Posted by GlobalNav
I regret that I have one hoot to give for my country.
"...but one hoot..."

throwing everything including the chick'n blink at the dOrks.
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The show never went on, reported cluster attack on Russian awards ceremony.

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