Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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Agreed, but there are comparisons, the destruction of Monte Cassino and the difficulty in taking the place due to the ruins offering better defensive positions could be compared to Bakhmut and its destruction. The same goes for Mariupol.
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Russia Is dropping incendiary weapons again against Ukrainian troops.
Russia Is dropping incendiary weapons again against Ukrainian troops.
https://twitter.com/parrot_reborn/st...00318171607139
https://twitter.com/parrot_reborn/st...00318171607139
Russia used WP in civilian areas, wonderful people, must be trying to make friends with their neighbours.
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Crazy footage of Russian infantry being decimated by artillery (including cluster munitions) to the north of Odradivka, Bakhmut direction. Work of the 45th Brigade.
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Ukrainian soldier 'Osman' from the 24th Aidar Batallion reports that 'based on UA intelligence data, Russia lost ~2000 soldiers in the last 3 days, trying to capture (the outskirts of) Avdiivka."
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Something happening in Sevastopol? or the ship that hit the mine?
https://ukrainetoday.org/2023/10/13/...astopol-video/
https://ukrainetoday.org/2023/10/13/...astopol-video/
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it looks like Ukraine has taken out a main supply route bridge between #Donetsk city & Horlivka, that also took out the railway.
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Something happening in Sevastopol? or the ship that hit the mine?
https://twitter.com/maria_drutska/st...39146555351170
https://ukrainetoday.org/2023/10/13/...astopol-video/
https://twitter.com/maria_drutska/st...39146555351170
https://ukrainetoday.org/2023/10/13/...astopol-video/
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The Netherlands will send from 12 to 18 F-16 fighter jets to Romania to train Ukrainian pilots
Dutch Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren has said that the country's armed forces will send from 12 to 18 F-16 fighter jets to a Romanian training center for Ukrainian pilots in the next few weeks.
Ollongren, quoted by the NLTimes, said that the training center could start operating after that.
The official did not specify when the Netherlands intended to hand over the first fighter jets to Ukraine so that it could use them on the battlefield.
Dutch Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren has said that the country's armed forces will send from 12 to 18 F-16 fighter jets to a Romanian training center for Ukrainian pilots in the next few weeks.
Ollongren, quoted by the NLTimes, said that the training center could start operating after that.
The official did not specify when the Netherlands intended to hand over the first fighter jets to Ukraine so that it could use them on the battlefield.
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Nutloose,
Looks like confirmation that it was a second ship destroyed - and a failed attempt on a sub…
The SBU, together with the Ukrainian Navy, attacked the missile carrier "Buyan" and the ship "Pavel Derzhavin" using experimental armament of marine drones.
Sources in the SBU confirm that today's attack on the missile carrier "Buyan" and the day before yesterday's sabotage of "Derzhavin" were carried out by the Security Service and the Ukrainian Navy.
Both ships were hit by "Sea Babies" with experimental weaponry.
🔹 'After the first explosion, Russian minesweepers and divers couldn't detect our innovation. Yesterday, the submarine "Alrosa" got lucky and managed to escape from our developments.'…..
Looks like confirmation that it was a second ship destroyed - and a failed attempt on a sub…
The SBU, together with the Ukrainian Navy, attacked the missile carrier "Buyan" and the ship "Pavel Derzhavin" using experimental armament of marine drones.
Sources in the SBU confirm that today's attack on the missile carrier "Buyan" and the day before yesterday's sabotage of "Derzhavin" were carried out by the Security Service and the Ukrainian Navy.
Both ships were hit by "Sea Babies" with experimental weaponry.
🔹 'After the first explosion, Russian minesweepers and divers couldn't detect our innovation. Yesterday, the submarine "Alrosa" got lucky and managed to escape from our developments.'…..
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The Ruzzians tried to storm Ukrainian positions in the Tauride direction, but aerial reconnaissance and anti-tank crews with drones stopped them. 6 Ruzzian tanks and 3 infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed, about 30 invaders were eliminated.
You do realise that with the low tech and high production rates of GLSDB, the ruskis can produce their own version right? Esp with those western chips and components being imported into russia through Dubai/Kazakhstan/Azerbaijan et all.
USA only offering the mid life f-16 upgrades, at best parity with the su-35 radar. All it will do with the the amout of AAD in the area, is that both sides will stay way clear of the frontlines and lob missiles at each other.
Wow that's a bold claim, i'm willing to bet against that,500 pounds . lets put it in escrow. u say ukraine overwhelming victory i say stalemate and negotiations by the end of european winter.
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I cannot argue with her logic.
Ukraine gave up 3000 nuclear warheads because we were promised we would be protected. Now, our soldiers are castrated, beheaded & burned alive. Their screams will haunt us for eternity. We watch our children kidnapped, we watch our houses bombed. But remember, we musn't provoke russia.
It has not escaped my notice that USA only gave European countries security clearance to provide F-16 Block 15/20 MLU fighter jets.. Granted this late 80s/early 90s upgrade of the F-16 is on par with the latest ruski fighter jet tech. Those countries are replacing their obsolete F-16s with the F-35. So no big deal for USA.
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LOOK AT THE NUMBERS!!!! ![Oooh](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/icon25.gif)
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Re the damaged ships
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Russian volunteer in Ukraine pleading for Russians at home to send..... Body Bags, as they have ran out!