Ukraine War Thread Part 2
Todays numbers of Russian losses are stunning: 34 tanks and 91 APC's! Even if the numbers would be off by 50% they would still be phenomenal.
Russian counter attack isn't doing that well.
Russian counter attack isn't doing that well.
Todays numbers of Russian losses are stunning: 34 tanks and 91 APC's! Even if the numbers would be off by 50% they would still be phenomenal.<br /><br />Russian counter attack isn't doing that well.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1711981109725086125">https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1711981109725086125</a>
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I think it is because of their push for Avdiivka.
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Todays numbers of Russian losses are stunning: 34 tanks and 91 APC's! Even if the numbers would be off by 50% they would still be phenomenal.
Russian counter attack isn't doing that well.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...81109725086125
Russian counter attack isn't doing that well.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...81109725086125
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Confirmation on the loss of the patrol ship….
Large ship "Pavel Derzhavin" of the Russian Black Sea Fleet exploded on its own mine, - Odesa OVA speaker Bratchuk
According to preliminary data, the large patrol ship "Pavel Derzhavin" of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia was blown up by a Russian mine.
Large ship "Pavel Derzhavin" of the Russian Black Sea Fleet exploded on its own mine, - Odesa OVA speaker Bratchuk
According to preliminary data, the large patrol ship "Pavel Derzhavin" of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia was blown up by a Russian mine.
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Denmark intends to deliver F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine in the first half of 2024
Minister Troels Lund Poulsen has said that his country intends to deliver the first F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine no later than the first quarter of 2024, i.e. by March or April, Danish broadcaster TV2 reported.
Poulsen added that the specific delivery date depends on the pace of training of Ukrainian pilots.
The Danish Defense Ministry did not say exactly how many fighter jets Kyiv would receive.
The Danish army has 43 F-16s in service; the Netherlands has approximately the same number of aircraft. Both countries have announced their intention to transfer their fighter jets to Ukraine.
On Wednesday, Belgium said it would transfer it’s F-16s to Ukraine starting in 2025.
Minister Troels Lund Poulsen has said that his country intends to deliver the first F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine no later than the first quarter of 2024, i.e. by March or April, Danish broadcaster TV2 reported.
Poulsen added that the specific delivery date depends on the pace of training of Ukrainian pilots.
The Danish Defense Ministry did not say exactly how many fighter jets Kyiv would receive.
The Danish army has 43 F-16s in service; the Netherlands has approximately the same number of aircraft. Both countries have announced their intention to transfer their fighter jets to Ukraine.
On Wednesday, Belgium said it would transfer it’s F-16s to Ukraine starting in 2025.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
It's time to talk about the AFU's Avdiivka🦃 shoot of the RuAF.
The @PStyle0ne1 account had a very nice thread posting many videos of the failed Russian assault.
Check them out and come back here to read the rest of my thread.
Avdiivka🦃 shoot🧵
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...985736241.html
The @PStyle0ne1 account had a very nice thread posting many videos of the failed Russian assault.
Check them out and come back here to read the rest of my thread.
Avdiivka🦃 shoot🧵
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...985736241.html
Putin is arguably the richest man in the world, from the salary of a KGB officer, a low ranking clerk in the St Pete Council, and from an annual salary of 8,900,000.00R. Love to know what bank gives him the compounding interest he must get. Putin is, a liar, a would be tsar not for the betterment of Russia but the betterment of Putin, he cares nowt about the Russians that he has had slaughtered, and he cares less, almost as little as he does for treaties, agreements and other niceties of civilisation, for the Ukrainians. He does not honour any agreement, not Brest-Litovsk, Alma-Ata, Minsk, he does not respect the USSRs constitution, or that of Russia. ( seems to be catchy that one) He is a... cheat, fabulist, deceiver, (pick a synonym... )Medvedev surfaces from his benders to sprout nonsense, parroting Lavrov the Hutt, the UN Ambassador trots out the party lies knowing they are lies, knowing that everyone knows that he knows that they are lies, Shogiu continues to lead from behind (a rather voluminous one) displaying tactics and strategy that appear to come from the missing works of Sun Tau, the art of self defeat. the Duma are... don'y know they are silent, the cabinet? loyal partners to the crime syndicate.
I have listed those murdered by the Kremlin, the dissidents, opposition and journalists, those people who believe that Russia deserves better than the circle of jerks on their crime spree. Russia reminisces back to the good old days, than never were. The great patriotic war.... that is the one that started as Molotov entered a plan with Ribbentrop to carve up Poland. It's curious that the UK declared war only on Germany at that time from an act that Russia was a willing partner in crime. After his now favourite Alsatian turns around and bites Joe on the Butt in June 1941, all of a. sudden the USSR is the party being unfairly treated and deserving of sympathy? But these are remembered as the good ol' days by Russia, when their perfidy came back in spades, and they avoided defeat by the simple measure that Hitler was dumber than dirt. Joe had purged his military, as, well, it's Russia and murder is our gig.
Alex Navalny is a part of the path to a better future of Russia, he is a teller of truth, he exposes the corruption of the oligarchs and the Crimlin gang, and Vlad responds to truth with his stunningly corrupt judiciary, Alice in wonderland level of distortion, projection and inhumanity. The Russian serfs know to keep their head down, Pavlovian training is effective.
Russias wars have also been listed in detail by me on these pages, there are no countries that Russia will tae the opportunity to attack. Russia claims it is in self defence, methinks they should stop killing their neighbours and perhaps acquire by some means a copy of Carnegies "how to win friends and influence people".
Without a Navalny in the seat, a true patriot of Russia, one who believes that there is a spark of civilisation somewhere under the corruption and outright criminality that Russia currently exhibits, without such a person and sea change in attitude, I see no reason for anyone to rely on an assurance, treaty, pact, protocol, LOI, MOU, IOU or anything that is backed by the concept of Ruzzian "integrity".
IMHO. E&OE
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It appears that Ukraine may be getting a ground based air defence system built around the AIM-9M and possibly an updated Chaparral system.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ed-for-ukraine
The U.S. military says it will soon deliver "new" air defense systems to Ukraine that fire AIM-9M Sidewinder heat-seeking missiles. What these systems are remains a mystery, but The War Zone has previously discussed the possibility of a surface-to-air Sidewinder capability for the Ukrainian forces. This followed the unexplained inclusion of AIM-9Ms, an older air-to-air version of the Sidewinder, in previous U.S. military aid packages earlier this year.
A new tranche of U.S. military aid for Ukraine "includes AIM-9 munitions for a new air-defense system that we will soon deliver to Ukraine," U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said earlier today at the sixteenth meeting of the multinational Ukraine Contact Group in Brussels, Belgium.
The Sidewinders are just part of the full aid package the Pentagon announced today, which is valued at $200 million. It also includes "precision aerial munitions" (a term used in the past to refer to Joint Direct Attack Munition-Extended Range precision-guided bombs), TOW anti-tank missiles, artillery and small arms ammunition, unspecified counter-drone and electronic warfare "equipment," and more.
No details have emerged so far about what these air defense systems consist of beyond the AIM-9M Sidewinders working as their effector. The War Zone has asked the Pentagon multiple times in the past for more information about how Ukraine would use these Sidewinders.
As The War Zone has noted in the past, the idea of a ground-based Sidewinder air defense system is not new. Between the 1960s and the 1990s, the U.S. Army fielded such a system, called the Chaparral. This consisted of a turreted four-round launcher mounted on either a tracked vehicle based on the M113 armored personnel carrier or a trailer. Chaparral used derivatives of the AIM-9 Sidewinder known as MIM-72s.
A new tranche of U.S. military aid for Ukraine "includes AIM-9 munitions for a new air-defense system that we will soon deliver to Ukraine," U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said earlier today at the sixteenth meeting of the multinational Ukraine Contact Group in Brussels, Belgium.
The Sidewinders are just part of the full aid package the Pentagon announced today, which is valued at $200 million. It also includes "precision aerial munitions" (a term used in the past to refer to Joint Direct Attack Munition-Extended Range precision-guided bombs), TOW anti-tank missiles, artillery and small arms ammunition, unspecified counter-drone and electronic warfare "equipment," and more.
No details have emerged so far about what these air defense systems consist of beyond the AIM-9M Sidewinders working as their effector. The War Zone has asked the Pentagon multiple times in the past for more information about how Ukraine would use these Sidewinders.
As The War Zone has noted in the past, the idea of a ground-based Sidewinder air defense system is not new. Between the 1960s and the 1990s, the U.S. Army fielded such a system, called the Chaparral. This consisted of a turreted four-round launcher mounted on either a tracked vehicle based on the M113 armored personnel carrier or a trailer. Chaparral used derivatives of the AIM-9 Sidewinder known as MIM-72s.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ed-for-ukraine
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Talk about a target rich environment. It reminds me of the early days on the road to Kyiv, a column of vehicles too close together and stalled at the first line of defence.
i mean the road is obviously mined judging by the dead vehicles and you just know what is going to happen next, but forward they roll, just like Lemmings..
i mean the road is obviously mined judging by the dead vehicles and you just know what is going to happen next, but forward they roll, just like Lemmings..
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The United Kingdom announced the transfer of stationary Terrahawk Paladin anti-aircraft systems to Ukraine. In the standard configuration, the installation is equipped with a 30-mm Mark 44 Bushmaster II cannon with a possible increase in caliber to 40 mm.
A new package of the UK military support for Ukraine is worth more than £100m.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/m...y-grant-shapps
A new package of the UK military support for Ukraine is worth more than £100m.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/m...y-grant-shapps
We were discussing Russia's response to the Ukraine offensive on the southern flank.
Let's See, the original HIMARS rockets were supposed to be the wunderwaffe that would obliterate ruski supply lines, GLSDB is twice the range granted, let's see if the production rate can keep up with the upgraded lancet and the KAB‐1500/FAB-500 glide bombs. (400kg warhead).
What's your timeline? 2023 or 2026?
Let's See, the original HIMARS rockets were supposed to be the wunderwaffe that would obliterate ruski supply lines, GLSDB is twice the range granted, let's see if the production rate can keep up with the upgraded lancet and the KAB‐1500/FAB-500 glide bombs. (400kg warhead).
What's your timeline? 2023 or 2026?
Himars did make - and continue to make - a huge difference. How many munition dumps, fuel-depots, C&C posts have been blown uop with large loss of Russki officers ? Do you look at any vlogs * showing - particularly recently - the number of Grad MLRS, Pion 203 mm SPG, Uragan 220 mm MLRS and ordinary 152 mm guns wiped out in Himars strikes ? Have a look, educate yourself. Obviously this has also immensely increased efforts for resupply since storage is now so much further back and in smaller quantities. If 90 km is turned into 150 km then their supply position becomes hopeless. Have you not noticed the many comments/reports/graphs and Telegram posts from Russian mobiks talking about how the supplies of Ru artillery shells has dropped off dramatically, to the extent that that Ukraine is now firing more ( and much more accurately ).? Ru would hardly be going begging to NK for shells if they had huge stocks in depots ready to supply, eh ?
Tell us about the upgraded Lancet then : how much larger warhead than 5 kg ? KAB‐1500/FAB-500 glide bombs - ah yes, a dumb bomb with wings. Is that all you got chucky ?
2023/First half 2024 depending on F-15 and GLSDB supply.
* Look here -
P.S To add to the three Su 35 shot down by their own AAA,we can now add the modern patrol boat Pavel Derzhavin blown up on a Russian mine near Sevastopol. I suppose this is another occasion where one can say " Well done, Russia, keep up the good work "
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Without a Navalny in the seat, a true patriot of Russia, one who believes that there is a spark of civilisation somewhere under the corruption and outright criminality that Russia currently exhibits, without such a person and sea change in attitude, I see no reason for anyone to rely on an assurance, treaty, pact, protocol, LOI, MOU, IOU or anything that is backed by the concept of Ruzzian "integrity".
IMHO. E&OE
Artillery barrages work if you can catch the enemy in the open. For smashing fortifications not so effective. Monte Casino (aerial barrage) and The Somme two examples where a heavy barrage did little.
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And Monte Cassino made it harder to take and easier to defend.
Monte Casino: you ever been there? Mountainous terrain.
The topic of this thread: War in Ukraine.
A lot of the fighting in Ukraine is on terrain that is not mountainous.
The topic of this thread: War in Ukraine.
A lot of the fighting in Ukraine is on terrain that is not mountainous.
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Avdiivka, What was happening..
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Previous examples are of 20th C wars (and the first examples fought with 19th C generals). The UKR forces are fighting a 21st C war (although their enemy may have failed to keep up).