Ukraine War Thread Part 2
But ORAC, old matey, what exactly that the Ruzzians have done in the last 18 months or in fact last 8 years suggests that any system they maintain will work as advertised? Flicking the off switch to on with a bright light bucket is as likely to end up with burnt eyebrows... Ruzzia's competency gives wings to the creative artists of Wile E Coyote.
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This all means that Putin can, and will, sacrifice great numbers of his young men without any personal consequence - a big difference between him and free world leaders.
Western powers granted Ukraine security in exchange for giving up nukes in Budapest Accords and we may believe that using tactical nuclear warhead by Russians would trigger NATO taking over skies of Ukraine and acquiring utter air superiority.
Would we risk WW3? Yes. But would it be necessary? Yes.
All this talk that russia is a great power and that they will threaten Georgia, Finland, Poland and the Baltics is complete BS. They have been proven to be the third worst army in the third world. The joke is, somehow if they win or get a land for peace deal. That will result in the big bad bear coming back. That's a laugh guv. Worry about China first.
Do we want a five year war? February 2024, 2nd anniversary, I said till end of year then negotiations, but let's wait till then.
Do we want a five year war? February 2024, 2nd anniversary, I said till end of year then negotiations, but let's wait till then.
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All this talk that russia is a great power and that they will threaten Georgia, Finland and the Baltics is complete BS. They have been proven to be the third worst army in the third world. The joke is, somehow if they win or get a land for peace deal will result in the big bad bear coming back is a laugh guv. Worry about China first.
All this talk that russia is a great power and that they will threaten Georgia, Finland and the Baltics is complete BS. They have been proven to be the third worst army in the third world. The joke is, somehow if they win or get a land for peace deal will result in the big bad bear coming back is a laugh guv. Worry about China first.
Do we want a five year war? February 2024, 2nd anniversary, I said till end of year then negotiations, but let's wait till then.
Do we want a five year war? February 2024, 2nd anniversary, I said till end of year then negotiations, but let's wait till then.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
The Security Service of Ukraine has detained a Russian special services officer after luring him out of the territory of occupied Transnistria.
On the instructions of the FSB, he was trying to create an agent network in Ukraine by recruiting residents of Odesa region.
As a result of a special operation, the enemy agent was lured to the territory of Ukraine, where he was detained.
On the instructions of the FSB, he was trying to create an agent network in Ukraine by recruiting residents of Odesa region.
As a result of a special operation, the enemy agent was lured to the territory of Ukraine, where he was detained.
You really think they have the balls to do that to NATO countries? As opposed to Ukraine, which they see as their backyard? ie red line, their people etc etc
Let's play a game. Just imagine if China was arming Mexico to the hilt. And Mexico said we want our Texas Californian lands back. It's our historical land after all. Or perhaps they never had it, and they crazy? How do u think USA would react? ie China right on our border.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Just to provide a link to the current attack in Israel.
Large Hamas delegations visited Moscow earlier this year and promised to help widen the conflict, in the current attack the6 are using drones t9 carry out attacks on Israel8 tanks.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...as-invitation/
There is only one nation, apart from Ukraine, with the combat pro end drones to carry out these attacks - and t9 provide either the operators and/or training.
Large Hamas delegations visited Moscow earlier this year and promised to help widen the conflict, in the current attack the6 are using drones t9 carry out attacks on Israel8 tanks.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...as-invitation/
There is only one nation, apart from Ukraine, with the combat pro end drones to carry out these attacks - and t9 provide either the operators and/or training.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Russian air defense shot down another of their own Su-35 fighter jets today near occupied Mariupol. 2nd time in less than a week.
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Do we think the Hamas attack on Israel is partly a tactic to divert US attention from Ukraine? Sponsored by Syria under pressure from Putrid?
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There is nothing about this story that relates to Ukraine.
Except for Turkey, China, Iran, Pakistan the US, Britain, Australia. Then there is the possibility that Azerbaijan might have sold off some of theirs now that they don't need them anymore. Oh yea, Russia makes drones too.
ORAC in case you didn't know, Israel and Russia are very friendly (to say the least).
ORAC in case you didn't know, Israel and Russia are very friendly (to say the least).
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How do you thwart whole NATO Air Power with a nuke? And with which carrier system do you want to achieve that? You can easily wipe out a city like Kiev. But in order to reach for instance Ramstein (and this wouldn't even thwart NATO Air Power, there is still for example the big docked Aircraft carrier HMS UK or its sister ships Spain and France) ballistic Iskanders won't be able to reach it. A Cruise Missile chuggin along merrily for close to one and a half hours over 1000km of NATO territory without being shot down? Ain't gonn'a happen. Only realistic option: ICBM with MIRV.
Can we please refrain from such blatant oversimplified phrases/scenarios. Don't consider your opponent to stoopid. They make mistakes. They make errors in judgement. They may be incompletely/ill informed. Still doesn't mean they are all out idiots. As*holes maybe but not idiots.
How do you thwart whole NATO Air Power with a nuke? And with which carrier system do you want to achieve that? You can easily wipe out a city like Kiev. But in order to reach for instance Ramstein (and this wouldn't even thwart NATO Air Power, there is still for example the big docked Aircraft carrier HMS UK or its sister ships Spain and France) ballistic Iskanders won't be able to reach it. A Cruise Missile chuggin along merrily for close to one and a half hours over 1000km of NATO territory without being shot down? Ain't gonn'a happen. Only realistic option: ICBM with MIRV.
Can we please refrain from such blatant oversimplified phrases/scenarios. Don't consider your opponent to stoopid. They make mistakes. They make errors in judgement. They may be incompletely/ill informed. Still doesn't mean they are all out idiots. As*holes maybe but not idiots.
I probably , ok did, word that badly, what I was trying to get across is once he has dropped one, then his gloves are off and there is nothing to stop him dropping more and destroying Ukraines cities and infrastructure, at which point what would be the use of NATO AirPower be? Ukraine would be gone and unless you intended to go to war with Russia what would you target, and if you did use NATO AirPower against Russia then what is to stop Russia ramping up the conflict to WW3?
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