Ukraine War Thread Part 2
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
A major explosion happened at the airport in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. The shockwave was felt more than 30 km away.
Reported to have been th3 customs terminal building which was obliterated.
Be interesting to discover what was being trans-shipped, and to who. ukbekistan isn’t in the war, so was it an accident or an attack?
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Reported to have been th3 customs terminal building which was obliterated.
Be interesting to discover what was being trans-shipped, and to who. ukbekistan isn’t in the war, so was it an accident or an attack?
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Article prob behind a paywall but can be accessed.
The art of war has been changed inexorably.
https://www.wsj.com/world/drones-eve...s70396gnlc3uf8
The art of war has been changed inexorably.
With thousands of Ukrainian and Russian drones in the air along the front line at a given time, from cheap quadrocopters to long-range winged aircraft that can fly hundreds of miles and stay on target for hours, the very nature of war has transformed.
The drones are just one element of change. New integrated battle-management systems that provide imaging and locations in real time all the way down to the platoon and squad levels—in Ukraine’s case, via the Starlink satellite network—have made targeting near instantaneous.
“Today, a column of tanks or a column of advancing troops can be discovered in three to five minutes and hit in another three minutes. The survivability on the move is no more than 10 minutes,” said Maj. Gen. Vadym Skibitsky, the deputy commander of Ukraine’s HUR military intelligence service. “Surprises have become very difficult to achieve.”
The technological revolution triggered by the Ukraine war, Europe’s biggest conflict in nearly eight decades, is calling into question the feasibility of some of the basic concepts of American military doctrine.
Combined-arms maneuvers using large groups of armored vehicles and tanks to make rapid breakthroughs—something that Washington and its allies had expected the Ukrainian offensive this summer to achieve—may no longer be possible in principle, some soldiers here say. The inevitable implication, according to Ukrainian commanders, is that the conflict won’t end soon.
The drones are just one element of change. New integrated battle-management systems that provide imaging and locations in real time all the way down to the platoon and squad levels—in Ukraine’s case, via the Starlink satellite network—have made targeting near instantaneous.
“Today, a column of tanks or a column of advancing troops can be discovered in three to five minutes and hit in another three minutes. The survivability on the move is no more than 10 minutes,” said Maj. Gen. Vadym Skibitsky, the deputy commander of Ukraine’s HUR military intelligence service. “Surprises have become very difficult to achieve.”
The technological revolution triggered by the Ukraine war, Europe’s biggest conflict in nearly eight decades, is calling into question the feasibility of some of the basic concepts of American military doctrine.
Combined-arms maneuvers using large groups of armored vehicles and tanks to make rapid breakthroughs—something that Washington and its allies had expected the Ukrainian offensive this summer to achieve—may no longer be possible in principle, some soldiers here say. The inevitable implication, according to Ukrainian commanders, is that the conflict won’t end soon.
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Not sure this will be the case. Is there any reason these can't be launched from mainland Russia bordering Ukraine?
I think what we're seeing is a switch to Ukraine targeting Russia's big ticket, hard-to-replace assets, in particular warships and combat/transport etc aircraft. They've been hammering away at Russia's logistics for ages now yet it doesn't appear to be significantly undermining their war effort. Taking out prized assets will give Russia pause for thought, make them seriously think whether holding on to Crimea and the land bridge is worth losing a significant component of their mil inventory.
The advantage of ATACMS is therefore both material, tactical and also morale boosting with a significant propaganda advantage for Ukraine. Russia would need to spin media for the home audience to explain why the RU is 'apparently' pulling out of occupied territories including Crimea or face humiliating losses which on face value would look like further incompetence.
Putin faced with Catch-22: Stay and incur heavy losses and increasingly significant tactical defeats or pull back even further, stretching logistics and therefore continually eroding the RU capability with ever more significant tactical defeats.
Putin faced with Catch-22: Stay and incur heavy losses and increasingly significant tactical defeats or pull back even further, stretching logistics and therefore continually eroding the RU capability with ever more significant tactical defeats.
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https://www.kyivpost.com/post/21978
Several members of a Russian air regiment and their security service colleagues have been reportedly killed whilst inspecting a Ukrainian kamikaze drone which they managed to hi-jack and land in an airfield in Kursk, Russia.
A source in Ukrainian military intelligence (HUR) told Kyiv Post the UAV was successfully intercepted by using radio-electronic warfare techniques and safely landed on the runway of the Halino airfield.
The leadership of the regiment based there as well as members of the FSB then decided to investigate their new “trophy,” the source said.
Their excitement was short-lived, with the drone blowing up as they were photographing and inspecting it.
According to the source, those killed or wounded during the explosion included the commander of the 14th aviation regiment, one of his deputies, a group of aviator officers, a representative of FSB military counterintelligence, and airport personnel.
However, the Kyiv Post was unable to confirm the specific individuals who died and who sustained injuries in this incident which occurred on Sunday.
The drone was one of several that targeted Kursk at the weekend. One hit an administrative building in the center of Russia's southern city, authorities said.
Kyiv has targeted Russian cities with almost daily attacks in recent months of Moscow's offensive, ongoing for 19 months. Kursk is around 90 kilometers (50 miles) from the border with Ukraine.
A source in Ukrainian military intelligence (HUR) told Kyiv Post the UAV was successfully intercepted by using radio-electronic warfare techniques and safely landed on the runway of the Halino airfield.
The leadership of the regiment based there as well as members of the FSB then decided to investigate their new “trophy,” the source said.
Their excitement was short-lived, with the drone blowing up as they were photographing and inspecting it.
According to the source, those killed or wounded during the explosion included the commander of the 14th aviation regiment, one of his deputies, a group of aviator officers, a representative of FSB military counterintelligence, and airport personnel.
However, the Kyiv Post was unable to confirm the specific individuals who died and who sustained injuries in this incident which occurred on Sunday.
The drone was one of several that targeted Kursk at the weekend. One hit an administrative building in the center of Russia's southern city, authorities said.
Kyiv has targeted Russian cities with almost daily attacks in recent months of Moscow's offensive, ongoing for 19 months. Kursk is around 90 kilometers (50 miles) from the border with Ukraine.
The Zimmerman Telegram... didn't pan (pain? tostada?) out.
A major explosion happened at the airport in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. The shockwave was felt more than 30 km away.
Reported to have been th3 customs terminal building which was obliterated.
Be interesting to discover what was being trans-shipped, and to who. ukbekistan isn’t in the war, so was it an accident or an attack?
![](https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/896x1195/image_5cdd4f319df79bcb664f65a21627a072d97e9b12.jpeg)
Reported to have been th3 customs terminal building which was obliterated.
Be interesting to discover what was being trans-shipped, and to who. ukbekistan isn’t in the war, so was it an accident or an attack?
![](https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/896x1195/image_5cdd4f319df79bcb664f65a21627a072d97e9b12.jpeg)
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Tashkent, morning after the explosion. Last link includes a video of the actual explosion.
Lightning strike and car batteries 🙄🙄🙄
According to the Uzbek media, the cause of the explosion in Tashkent could be batteries for electric vehicles in the customs warehouse, but the authorities have not yet commented on this version.
There is practically nothing left of the warehouse, rescuers and doctors are evacuating the victims from the epicenter to hospitals.
The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Uzbekistan announced that the explosion in Tashkent occurred "due to a lightning strike"
A video of an explosion in Tashkent has been published
Officially, the cause of the explosion was a lightning strike. However, the video does not show the lightning, and numerous eyewitnesses in social networks did not report it either.
Lightning strike and car batteries 🙄🙄🙄
According to the Uzbek media, the cause of the explosion in Tashkent could be batteries for electric vehicles in the customs warehouse, but the authorities have not yet commented on this version.
There is practically nothing left of the warehouse, rescuers and doctors are evacuating the victims from the epicenter to hospitals.
The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Uzbekistan announced that the explosion in Tashkent occurred "due to a lightning strike"
A video of an explosion in Tashkent has been published
Officially, the cause of the explosion was a lightning strike. However, the video does not show the lightning, and numerous eyewitnesses in social networks did not report it either.
Looks like a secondary explosion right after the big one?
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The Freedom of Russia legion announced that they have restarted operations in the Bilhorod region in Russia. "There are no wounded or dead among the legionnaires, we are working according to plan. Leave the tales about minefields to Konashenkov. We continue to cleanse our house of Putin’s filth," they emphasize.
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A Russian saying western personal weapons are no good.
Not sure this will be the case. Is there any reason these can't be launched from mainland Russia bordering Ukraine?
I think what we're seeing is a switch to Ukraine targeting Russia's big ticket, hard-to-replace assets, in particular warships and combat/transport etc aircraft. They've been hammering away at Russia's logistics for ages now yet it doesn't appear to be significantly undermining their war effort.
I think what we're seeing is a switch to Ukraine targeting Russia's big ticket, hard-to-replace assets, in particular warships and combat/transport etc aircraft. They've been hammering away at Russia's logistics for ages now yet it doesn't appear to be significantly undermining their war effort.
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'Aviator".......................... Ukrainian Sea King, we do not see many images of them, but it looks like it is doing sterling service.
Indeed, they made a poor meal of it: pan, sin mantequilla. ![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
About the Russian critiquing the Western rifle: the barrel is still made of steel.![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
While I was trained with the M-16 (many years ago) I much preferred the M-14 (matter of personal taste).
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About the Russian critiquing the Western rifle: the barrel is still made of steel.
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While I was trained with the M-16 (many years ago) I much preferred the M-14 (matter of personal taste).
If a drone is intercepted can the operator still see what the drone sees?
With the recent capture of a Kamikaze drone and resultant explosion one wonders if the operator could see what was happening and waited till the right moment to detonate.
If so makes disarming them problematic. A UXB that can be detonated remotely.
With the recent capture of a Kamikaze drone and resultant explosion one wonders if the operator could see what was happening and waited till the right moment to detonate.
If so makes disarming them problematic. A UXB that can be detonated remotely.
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BREAKING:
The Ukraine-allied “Freedom of Russia Legion” made up of ethnic Russians, announces that it has crossed the border from Ukraine and entered the Russian Belgorod region.
Battles against the Russian Army are underway.
The Ukraine-allied “Freedom of Russia Legion” made up of ethnic Russians, announces that it has crossed the border from Ukraine and entered the Russian Belgorod region.
Battles against the Russian Army are underway.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
🇱🇻 Latvian parliament bans radio and television from broadcasting in Russian language
The decision bans all public media from using the Russian language until January 1, 2026.
And then there will be no more Russia and no more people for whom it is necessary to broadcast in Russian 😉 local media report
The decision bans all public media from using the Russian language until January 1, 2026.
And then there will be no more Russia and no more people for whom it is necessary to broadcast in Russian 😉 local media report
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