Ukraine War Thread Part 2
nuclear submarines or any nuclear vessel are banned from the black sea. Turkey would never let through under its Montreux agreement, the only exception would be if the vessel was actually built on a black sea port it could return to its port for maintainence. No nuclear vessel has been built in the black sead
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Good quality satellite images of the "damaged" 🇷🇺Russian diesel-electric submarine "Rostov-on-Don" and the large landing ship "Minsk".
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Close up from a different angle, deny the sub damage all they want but that looks like a crater in the dry dock and the sub does look rather damaged.
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Another possible juicy target especially giving the timeframe loading, the barge that does the loading would also be a major asset, no barge = difficult to rearm the fleet.
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Why is Ukraine focused on striking Russian landing ships?
The ships are designed to save Russian logistics at the moment when the Ukrainian Defense Forces cut the railway line running through Tokmak. After that, the Russians plan to supply fuel to their army group in the occupied areas of Zaporizhzhia region (and in the southern part of Donetsk region) via occupied Mariupol, transferring fuel and heavy cargoes with the help of seacraft.
By the way, that's why the Russians are now working on restoring the railroad branch at the Mariupol port. If Ukraine is able to cut the artery running through Tokmak (it is already used very little due to the approaching frontline), and deprive the Russian Black Sea Fleet of transportation opportunities, this, in fact, creates a kind of A2AD zone (anti-access and area denial zone) for Russian logistics.
And without fuel (and a regular supply of ammunition, medical supplies, equipment, etc.) it is quite difficult to fight, mildly speaking.
The ships are designed to save Russian logistics at the moment when the Ukrainian Defense Forces cut the railway line running through Tokmak. After that, the Russians plan to supply fuel to their army group in the occupied areas of Zaporizhzhia region (and in the southern part of Donetsk region) via occupied Mariupol, transferring fuel and heavy cargoes with the help of seacraft.
By the way, that's why the Russians are now working on restoring the railroad branch at the Mariupol port. If Ukraine is able to cut the artery running through Tokmak (it is already used very little due to the approaching frontline), and deprive the Russian Black Sea Fleet of transportation opportunities, this, in fact, creates a kind of A2AD zone (anti-access and area denial zone) for Russian logistics.
And without fuel (and a regular supply of ammunition, medical supplies, equipment, etc.) it is quite difficult to fight, mildly speaking.
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A relevant query from one guy, also as he says Ukrainians that fled Crimea were forced to use Russian plates.
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Why is Ukraine focused on striking Russian landing ships?
The ships are designed to save Russian logistics at the moment when the Ukrainian Defense Forces cut the railway line running through Tokmak. After that, the Russians plan to supply fuel to their army group in the occupied areas of Zaporizhzhia region (and in the southern part of Donetsk region) via occupied Mariupol, transferring fuel and heavy cargoes with the help of seacraft.
By the way, that's why the Russians are now working on restoring the railroad branch at the Mariupol port. If Ukraine is able to cut the artery running through Tokmak (it is already used very little due to the approaching frontline), and deprive the Russian Black Sea Fleet of transportation opportunities, this, in fact, creates a kind of A2AD zone (anti-access and area denial zone) for Russian logistics.
And without fuel (and a regular supply of ammunition, medical supplies, equipment, etc.) it is quite difficult to fight, mildly speaking.
The ships are designed to save Russian logistics at the moment when the Ukrainian Defense Forces cut the railway line running through Tokmak. After that, the Russians plan to supply fuel to their army group in the occupied areas of Zaporizhzhia region (and in the southern part of Donetsk region) via occupied Mariupol, transferring fuel and heavy cargoes with the help of seacraft.
By the way, that's why the Russians are now working on restoring the railroad branch at the Mariupol port. If Ukraine is able to cut the artery running through Tokmak (it is already used very little due to the approaching frontline), and deprive the Russian Black Sea Fleet of transportation opportunities, this, in fact, creates a kind of A2AD zone (anti-access and area denial zone) for Russian logistics.
And without fuel (and a regular supply of ammunition, medical supplies, equipment, etc.) it is quite difficult to fight, mildly speaking.
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You think he knows in his heart they’ve lost?
Visibly dejected, Vladimir Solovyov bemoaned Ukraine's latest strikes in Crimea. Attempting to deflect from his own nickname that he passionately hates (thread), he attacked another female, in a pathetic attempt to give her a nasty nickname.
Visibly dejected, Vladimir Solovyov bemoaned Ukraine's latest strikes in Crimea. Attempting to deflect from his own nickname that he passionately hates (thread), he attacked another female, in a pathetic attempt to give her a nasty nickname.
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Wrap your heads in Tinfoil, Russian propagandists are ready to nuke the U.K. again and our subs, that’s if they could find them… and they can repel any retaliation…… they couldn’t repel a drone costing hundreds of pounds from hitting the Kremlin lol.
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The European Parliament has recognised Belarusian dictator Lukashenka as involved in the war against Ukraine along with Putin, and has called on the International Criminal Court to issue a warrant for his arrest.
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Brilliant, just absolutely Brilliant lol. They even have a cope cage.
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BREAKING:
Romania has moved air defence systems to the Ukrainian border in response to Russian suicide drones crashing on RO territory:
- Troops & EOD teams deployed to the border
- Deployed radars, sensors & air defense systems
- Navy now patrolling the Danube river
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Romania has moved air defence systems to the Ukrainian border in response to Russian suicide drones crashing on RO territory:
- Troops & EOD teams deployed to the border
- Deployed radars, sensors & air defense systems
- Navy now patrolling the Danube river
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Brilliant, just absolutely Brilliant lol. They even have a cope cage.
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1702045040250331509
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1702045040250331509
A quick look around their major fleet ports, Rostov, Murmansk, Vladivostock, Novorossiysk etc., and it looks like they have no other dry dock facilities other than the ones hit in Sevastopol, which is why they see hanging onto it as vital. Looks like they have a few of those floating dry dock units in the Baltic, which they sort of used for that wreck of an aircraft carrier they have tried getting back into service?
Yep the biggest dry docks are in the former soviet countries like ukraine and poland. They have a few very large ones but they are mostly attempting to maintain existing ships or brand new commercial builds. You also need to remember that after france cancelled the mistral LPH's due to crimea invasion. Russia started building the replacements at dockyard in Kerch. Or the other thing is that many of the engines are from ukraine. The class the admiral makarov comes from has had 3 hulls sitting mostly completed due to it using a Ukrainian engine and it being embargoed. They have been for years trying to develop a russian engine and only recently restarted building them. They are supposed to be sold to india but wonder if they will withdraw
nuclear submarines or any nuclear vessel are banned from the black sea. Turkey would never let through under its Montreux agreement, the only exception would be if the vessel was actually built on a black sea port it could return to its port for maintainence. No nuclear vessel has been built in the black sead
The Admiral Makarov was initially suggested as being a recipient of the visitation at Sevastopol, that doesn't have any supporting evidence as yet, so it appears she lives to float another day, they are not taking the hint yet to relocate to milder climates.
Russias dry dock facilities will be rather pressed for scheduling spaces.
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I wonder how much of the dry dock infrastructure took a hit, workshops, cranes, dock gates etc…