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Old 16th Aug 2023, 17:01
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Originally Posted by Geriaviator
Like most quangos it gives well-paid employment to hundreds of UNicrats in their vast offices, plus plenty of well-fed conferences around the world, And a great pension when one can tear oneself away.
Don't forget that the salaries will be largely tax-free, as will lots of their purchases.
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 17:33
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Originally Posted by FUMR
The NATO countries should be doing one thing and one thing only: helping Ukraine in every way possible to kick the Russian INVADERS off Ukrainian land. I'm appalled at this latest NATO stance. It's an insult
Are you from Ukraine? (For some reason, I have it in my head that you are from Finland. Sorry if I have that wrong).
Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
Personally, I think the UN is the worst culprit. It has been utterly useless, not only in Ukraine but in many other conflicts, and it is hard to understand what purpose it actually serves.
Conflict prevention is an art; the UNSC seems to be at about the finger-painting level of talent. I share your disappointment. UN peacekeeping has had a mixed record, UN No-Fly zones (see, aviation content) likewise.
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Like most quangos it gives well-paid employment to hundreds of UNicrats in their vast offices, plus plenty of well-fed conferences around the world, And a great pension when one can tear oneself away.
Seems to be that way, doesn't it, particularly as regards collective security.
The UN has some uses, though. ICAO is a UN-related thing. (And that too is aviation related content!)
It says on their home page that they are "A United Nations Specialized Agency"
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Old 16th Aug 2023, 17:34
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Everyone remember a month back when Ukrainian officials warned of Russian false flag event on a Belarusian oil refinery and a week later surprise surprise a fire broke on the aforementioned refinery?

Now the Ukrainian officials are warning of false flag attacks on two NPP's. This time I sure hope they are wrong or the publication makes russkies cancel the operation.

To make it short, Putin is making preparations for a false-flag attack on Russia's Kursk Nuclear Powerplant, 36 miles from Ukraine border, to coincide with false-flag at occupied Zaporizhia NPP.




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Video of the Kerch bridge surface attack….

​​​​​​​This is amazing. Not only the bridge was unsecured to be attacked by two drones from two directions, Ukrainians also had access to the cameras on the bridge.…
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Video of the Kerch bridge surface attack….



This is amazing. Not only the bridge was unsecured to be attacked by two drones from two directions, Ukrainians also had access to the cameras on the bridge.…
That puzzles me. For a couple of seconds pre-explosion we see that the drone is under the railway bridge, but in the last attack - IIRC - the railway bridge wasn't hit, was it ?
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Another early miltary death - first commander of the SMO only made 57

" Colonel General Gennady Zhidko, a top Russian Army commander who was dismissed as Moscow suffered setbacks in the Ukraine war, has died at the age of 57, a regional governor announced on Wednesday.The former commander of Russia’s Eastern Military District and the former Russian deputy minister of defense died in Moscow “after a long illness,” Mikhail Degtyarev, the governor of Khabarovsk Krai said in a post on Telegram.

Zhidko served as Chief of Staff of the Russian Armed Forces in Syria in 2016, and in 2018 was appointed Commander of the Eastern Military District. He was made deputy minister of defense in 2021."


https://ukrainetoday.org/2023/08/16/...ies-in-moscow/

I wonder if any enterprising internet statistician has been comparing pre-SMO and post-SMO deaths amongst top level military men and business leaders ?

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Ukranian sources publish a video showing what it looks like from the inside when a Humvee drives over a mine.




Longer video with explanation.from those involved:




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Another one gone

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That’s one heck of a spread.

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Back to the ship interception, of the Turkish owned, Turkish crewed, Palauan flagged (US defence protectorate treaty) event. of 13 August 2023.

Turns out, the Ukrainian report was quite accurate, the ship was intercepted in BULGARIAN TERRITORIAL WATERS, by force. The ship had just exited Turkish EEZ and territorial waters, and appears to have been within the Bulgarian 12nm territorial waters, where Russia has only the right of innocent passage. Bulgaria is a NATO (2004) and EU member (2007).

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Moscow showing the captured state of the art western equipment from each country.... Ohh and a British entrant in the form of the Saxon..
Brought a tear to my eye that. So proud of our little Bushmaster. ❤️

Do they have a display of all the farming equipment & white goods they got as well? 🤔
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Russian air strikes on southern Ukraine damage grain silos

Russian air strikes on southern Ukraine overnight damaged grain silos and warehouses at one of the Danube river ports, a key facility for grains shipments, the governor of the Odesa region on the Black Sea said.

“Russian terrorists attacked Odesa region twice last night with attack drones,” Governor Oleh Kiper said on the Telegram messaging app. “The main target is port and grain infrastructure in the south of the region.”

The presidential office said in a separate statement that there were no casualties.

Photos released by the governor show the destroyed metal walls of the storage facilities and piles of scattered grain and sunflowers.

Ukrainian officials have not yet said whether the attacked port is still operating.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...desa-black-sea

First cargo ship leaves Ukraine port since end of grain deal despite Russian threats

A civilian cargo vessel has left Ukraine’s southern port of Odesa, Kyiv has said, despite warnings from Russia that its navy could target ships using the Black Sea export hubs.

The announcement raises the spectre of a standoff with Russian warships, after Moscow pulled out of a key deal last month brokered by the UN and Turkey, which guaranteed safe passage for grain shipments from three Ukrainian ports.

Ukraine’s infrastructure minister, Oleksandr Kubrakov, said the Hong Kong-flagged Joseph Schulte left on Wednesday morning from the port of Odesa – one of three vessels that participated in the now-scrapped grain export deal.

The Joseph Schulte is the first vessel to sail from the port since 16 July, according to Oleksandr Kubrakov, Ukraine’s deputy prime minister. It had been stuck in Odesa since February 2022.

The ship was travelling down a temporary corridor that Ukraine asked the International Maritime Organization (IMO) to ratify. With ship insurance likely to be high for operators, Ukraine has told the IMO it would “provide guarantees of compensation for damage”.

Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, welcomed the development. “Ukraine has just made an important step toward restoring the freedom of navigation in the Black Sea,” he said on social media.

The Joseph Schulte was off the coast of Romania, en route to Turkey, a maritime tracking website showed early on Thursday…..

The Joseph Schulte is carrying more than 30,000 tons of cargo, with 2,114 containers, including food products, according to Kubrakov.

The vessel is the highest value ship of the 60 still stuck in Ukraine since the war began, according to John Stawpert, senior manager of environment and trade for the International Chamber of Shipping, which represents 80% of the world’s commercial fleet….
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Another of the worlds most potent ( apparently) ka-52 Helicopters lies burning in a field.



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A claimed Switchblade 600 kill.

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Western weapons are not that good, nor is NATO training...


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And the latest Russian propagandist dross from Skabeeva the beaver (unconfirmed)

Michelle Obama is a transgender.

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Latest front news

The training camp clip was on the end of post 3992

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Excellent thread on the Russian's repairing the stored tanks etc, if you cannot see it all, let me know how far down you can and I will repost the other parts.

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This shows the impact drones are having on modern warfare, posted by Nolan Peterson

A quick anecdote to underscore the value of drones for Ukraine.

This weekend I sat down with a Ukrainian SOF drone operator, and he described an operation in which a Ukrainian mortar unit fired 46 120 mm rounds at a Russian target — only 1 out of those 46 shots was a direct hit.

The SOF drone team then took over.

Using a single drone, they flew four back-to-back sorties and dropped four 120 mm rounds (taken from the nearby mortar unit) on the Russian target. Four out of four direct hits. The target was done.

In an attritional war in which ammunition supplies are a limiting factor, drones are a potent force multiplier.

They are an invaluable way to increase precision — both through ISR, as well as strikes — in order to maximize the effect of available ammunition.
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