jeallen01

Yup, I was wrong - Sulphur Dioxide (SO2) disolves in water (H2O) to make Sulphonic Acid !

NutLoose

What appears to have also been a Russian port attack.

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talby33

$35 billion, you're very charitable

NutLoose

Russian Officers dining out night in Mariupol turned out to be more of a last supper.

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Ninthace

I wasn't going to say anything as it really doesn't matter. Neither is flammable and likely to "go up in smoke" unless brought to the boil first, I would suspect any sulphuric acid on the site of a battery plant would be there as a liquid rather than being made on site.

Tartiflette Fan

Does HIMARS have a cluster-bomb capability ? I ask since the latest attack on the Russians on a beach would have been an ideal use fr such weapons.

Tartiflette Fan

I have no marine knowledge but would believe that the engine-room would always be the preferred target: : eliminate motive power and also electricity generation, plus heaviest portion of the ship should equal greatest chance of sinkage.

Beamr

M30A1 is just the medicine in such occasion, and Ukraine has those.
It has 180000 tungsten balls penetrating vehicles and personnel.

Ninthace

It also often represents the biggest floodable compartment if you can open it to the sea.

Bengo

Tankers are very difficult to sink just by making holes below the waterline Their cargo floats, so you want to make some holes in the top as well. Remember the difficulties in the WW2 battles with Ohio ( to Malta) and San Demetrio. Tankers are also now required under international maritime law to have double bottoms, though their may be an exemption for State vessels. This makes making killing holes more difficult.
It is always clear where the engine room is and they are usually nice big floodable spaces, normally unmanned, which delays any response.
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pasta

In some ways, sinking a ship (whether military or cargo) might not be the optimal strategy anyway. Disabling but not sinking ties up resources in recovering it, and probably port or dry dock space too. You just have to damage it badly enough that it's unlikely to return to service before the end of the conflict.

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Tartiflette Fan

In that respect, identical to injuring a soldier .

rattman

This thing wont return to service, guess where all the spare parts for it is made ? That would be Gdansk Poland. Maybe it might be stripped for bits that they could use to get some of the others that are laid up due to lack of spares operational again but I doubt that

just another jocky

That's some balls!

Winemaker

I was astounded by the claim of 180,000 balls so looked things up. Yep, scary. Here's a short youtube on its effect....

ORAC

🚨 At least 11 Russian Tu-95 strategic bombers are in the air, expected to launch cruise missiles against civilians across Ukraine in about 1-2 hours.

Current time in Kyiv is 12:39am. (UTC + 3)

fdr

Strategically, Lord Farquard is going to spit his dummy. These are legitimate targets against the criminal actions of the aggressor state, and are completely within the sovereign rights of Ukraine under international conventions, and even enshrined in the UN Charter, which Ukraine has abided with and Russia has used as toilet paper. Nevertheless, the tantrum that the Loopy Lord of the dark tower will throw is not going to be fun to be the recipient of. Going nuts and resorting to WMD will probably bring a NATO response to take out all Russian forces within Ukraine territory, as defined by the UN accepted international boundaries, which have eastern Ukraine and Crimea as Ukrainian, not Robbing Hoodlums. Back home, there will be an increase in objections muted by the oppressive police state that Russia has been for a millennia, and support for the master strategist of the 3-day SMO.

NutLoose

Hitting targets at the dragons teeth defence line.

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