Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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Supposed damage to the rail bridge at Chongar, however if hit by a reported Storm shadow I would have expected a bigger crater, any thoughts on that?
The damage to the rails is trivial and the6 can be replaced in a few hours - the damage to the bridge structure looks like it ma6 be terminal. You could plug it but the rest of the structure either side will have lost its structural rigidity and integrity.
I imagine they might try and run lightly loaded trains slowly over the bridge one at a time - if they feel lucky.
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Israeli owned ship Ams1 (reg to Sierra Leone) is heading to a Ukrainian port of Izmail, first ship heading to Ukrainian port since Russia announced the blockade. Interesting to see what happens.
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From the New York Times, an article about Ukrainian drone strikes in Russia https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/w...es-russia.html
At least three different Ukrainian-made drones have been used in attacks inside Russia, including Moscow, according to an analysis by The New York Times, indicating a Ukrainian role in strikes that the government in Kyiv has long shrouded in mystery.
Ukrainian officials have declined to claim or deny responsibility for drone strikes on Russian territory. But the three drone models, which appear capable of flying hundreds of miles from Ukraine to Moscow, were used in strikes in Russia.
The Times analysis, based on flight footage, images of prototypes and wreckage on the ground, as well as interviews with experts and officials, also found that Ukraine is racing to scale up its homegrown drone fleet, and to attack more frequently in Russia.
Public glimpses of Ukraine’s long-range drone industry are rare: One of the few appeared months ago, in the profile of a popular 23-year-old Ukrainian influencer who had been raising money for the war effort.The three drones identified by The Times — the Bober, the UJ-22 Airborne and a third model with an undetermined name — have all been used to hit targets in Russia, including Moscow, and the attacks have been increasing, based on a tally by The Times of geolocated visuals and local reports. The number of kamikaze drones flown into Russia between May and July was double the total for all of 2022.....
In Moscow alone, there have been six strikes since the May 3 attack on the Kremlin, including one on Sunday, in the city’s financial district. The drones identified by The Times have been directly linked to three of these attacks, on May 30, July 24 and July 30, and may have played a role in the others as well.
Ukrainian officials have declined to claim or deny responsibility for drone strikes on Russian territory. But the three drone models, which appear capable of flying hundreds of miles from Ukraine to Moscow, were used in strikes in Russia.
The Times analysis, based on flight footage, images of prototypes and wreckage on the ground, as well as interviews with experts and officials, also found that Ukraine is racing to scale up its homegrown drone fleet, and to attack more frequently in Russia.
Public glimpses of Ukraine’s long-range drone industry are rare: One of the few appeared months ago, in the profile of a popular 23-year-old Ukrainian influencer who had been raising money for the war effort.The three drones identified by The Times — the Bober, the UJ-22 Airborne and a third model with an undetermined name — have all been used to hit targets in Russia, including Moscow, and the attacks have been increasing, based on a tally by The Times of geolocated visuals and local reports. The number of kamikaze drones flown into Russia between May and July was double the total for all of 2022.....
In Moscow alone, there have been six strikes since the May 3 attack on the Kremlin, including one on Sunday, in the city’s financial district. The drones identified by The Times have been directly linked to three of these attacks, on May 30, July 24 and July 30, and may have played a role in the others as well.
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I get the idea that these drone strikes on Moscow are mostly done for psychological reasons. (Kind of like the Doolittle raid on Tokyo in 1942).
Not sure what effect they'll have, but it's probably worth the effort.
Not sure what effect they'll have, but it's probably worth the effort.
Granted, the Doolittle Raid had pschyological impact, but the national leadership in Russia as in WW2 Japan aren’t likely to be moved by that factor. But it may encourage them to pull defensive resources away from the front line.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Russia: Over half a dozen military conscription offices were attacked with Molotov cocktails yesterday across the country.
In most instances, the people who did it were pensioners as old as 80 years old. This video is from Podolsk.
Interestingly, in many cases the arsonist heroes claim they were instructed to do it by an individual presenting himself as an FSB employee.
In most instances, the people who did it were pensioners as old as 80 years old. This video is from Podolsk.
Interestingly, in many cases the arsonist heroes claim they were instructed to do it by an individual presenting himself as an FSB employee.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Another night of drone attacks on Moscow - at least one target is known to be the "IQ" building at the Moscow City skyscraper: it houses 7 ministries, including the econ and cyber ministries: … . Fires reported on 20th floor.
Reports coming in that more Drones (one or two), have hit the same building in 'Moscow City'...
I think Tendar has already posted....
Hopefully, these 'hits' are going to start some inner Moscow (intelligent), peoples concerns about how really how well is Russia doing if we are being bombed inside the capital area....?
PS: I think ORAC beat me to it...
I think Tendar has already posted....
Hopefully, these 'hits' are going to start some inner Moscow (intelligent), peoples concerns about how really how well is Russia doing if we are being bombed inside the capital area....?
PS: I think ORAC beat me to it...
Damage to Chonhar bridge much worse than initially reported ?
Supposed damage to the rail bridge at Chogar, however if hit by a reported Storm shadow I would have expected a bigger crater, any thoughts on that?
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https://twitter.com/TWMCLtd/status/1686003726236917761
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well, golly, that is going to have some impact. Given the shortage reported of ball bearings that Russia has at present, can envisage that the RUffians will start caring for their wounded and dead, so they can harvest and sell ball bearings to Vlad or on the Russian black market. Everyone is a winner, other than the shredded ball bearing collector system A.K.A. conscriptniks. As Russia doesn't care about their lives any more than they do of Ukrainian civilians, there is some symmetry to this munition.
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Some of the Frankentanks Ukraine comes up with are impressive.
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Three hangars in Moscow on fire according to noel
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Reports of the Kerch bridge being closed and the rail station evacuated as reported to have been possibly mined yesterday.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I like it… Psyops…..
Moscow. Explanation.
Do you know why they don't sound the air raid alarm in Moscow?
You can't sow panic.
To quell panic in general, we need more air defense in Moscow.
Electronic warfare is no longer effective against Ukrainian drones.
Why can't they add air defense systems?
Because there is a lack of them. In principle.
Also, June-July are absolute records for destroyed systems compared to all other months of the war.
I have mentioned this many times.
What does it mean to withdraw a part of air defense systems from the frontline?
You don't even need to think about it.
Yesterday, the railroad bridge at Chongar was taken.
And today it's Moscow.
And what if tomorrow is St. Petersburg? Ryazan? Rostov? What if all of them?
Little by little.
That's all we need.
All the governors will get themselves a Pantsir and a Tor.
And a battalion of smugglers to guard them. To prevent Kadyrov's men from stealing the Thor to Gudermes.
Why? They need it too.
Kadyrov asked, remember?
(To deploy air defense in Shali. In July 2022)
Kadyrov was even offended by Karas, when I said that he could fly to Grozny.
Oh, "Putin doesn't care about panic".
If it didn't matter, they would have sounded the siren.
The stress of Muscovites after the trenches and the escape of the cops before Prigozhin's offensive has not gone away.
"Moscow City is great. First of all, the facilities of government ministries. Secondly, it is a center of business and pomp.
Air defense systems will be moved there.
Do you realize that the bridge on Chongar, warehouses in Crimea, headquarters near Mariupol and Melitopol have been knocked out?
And in Zaporizhzhia, in some places, our forces have already reached the main line of defense?
Are you not satisfied with your flights to Moscow?
You can't imagine the look on the faces of the generals of the Vostok and Dnipro groups when even one complex is taken away from them.
With Storm Shadow and Scalp smiling at them.
And then there is the S-200.
The Russians say that we are also very good at the game - at ground targets with old huge air defense missiles.
What if they take not one but twenty air defense systems from the front?
This is the beginning of a safari, dear friends.
And apparently, the most interesting part is near.
...The green on the map is a railroad.
The railroad is like a blood artery for the occupying army.
Look here. You will understand everything yourself.
Please share it.
Yevhen Karas
Moscow. Explanation.
Do you know why they don't sound the air raid alarm in Moscow?
You can't sow panic.
To quell panic in general, we need more air defense in Moscow.
Electronic warfare is no longer effective against Ukrainian drones.
Why can't they add air defense systems?
Because there is a lack of them. In principle.
Also, June-July are absolute records for destroyed systems compared to all other months of the war.
I have mentioned this many times.
What does it mean to withdraw a part of air defense systems from the frontline?
You don't even need to think about it.
Yesterday, the railroad bridge at Chongar was taken.
And today it's Moscow.
And what if tomorrow is St. Petersburg? Ryazan? Rostov? What if all of them?
Little by little.
That's all we need.
All the governors will get themselves a Pantsir and a Tor.
And a battalion of smugglers to guard them. To prevent Kadyrov's men from stealing the Thor to Gudermes.
Why? They need it too.
Kadyrov asked, remember?
(To deploy air defense in Shali. In July 2022)
Kadyrov was even offended by Karas, when I said that he could fly to Grozny.
Oh, "Putin doesn't care about panic".
If it didn't matter, they would have sounded the siren.
The stress of Muscovites after the trenches and the escape of the cops before Prigozhin's offensive has not gone away.
"Moscow City is great. First of all, the facilities of government ministries. Secondly, it is a center of business and pomp.
Air defense systems will be moved there.
Do you realize that the bridge on Chongar, warehouses in Crimea, headquarters near Mariupol and Melitopol have been knocked out?
And in Zaporizhzhia, in some places, our forces have already reached the main line of defense?
Are you not satisfied with your flights to Moscow?
You can't imagine the look on the faces of the generals of the Vostok and Dnipro groups when even one complex is taken away from them.
With Storm Shadow and Scalp smiling at them.
And then there is the S-200.
The Russians say that we are also very good at the game - at ground targets with old huge air defense missiles.
What if they take not one but twenty air defense systems from the front?
This is the beginning of a safari, dear friends.
And apparently, the most interesting part is near.
...The green on the map is a railroad.
The railroad is like a blood artery for the occupying army.
Look here. You will understand everything yourself.
Please share it.
Yevhen Karas
US: any attack by Wagner PMC is considered as an attack by Russian government.
Rather straight forward statement supporting Poland.
Rather straight forward statement supporting Poland.
No surprise. President Putin has recently declared that Wagner was always 100 percent funded by the Russian state. It is not any sort of private army or business. It is a state organization.
Glad to see Washington not pulling punches.
But
I think that the Wagner / Belarus / Poland / Suwalki Gap notion is a bit of maskirovka, just as the Amphibious Group off of the coast of Kuwait was in 1991.
1. The time to make a quick strike across that corridor to Kaliningrad/Königsberg.is when NATO is sitting back on its heels, being complacent..not when NATO is alret and already deploying troops and aircraft into the region.
2. The Russians showed a non-trivial lack of talent for supporting a quick strike move across slow go terrain (which is that whole region) in February of 2022. Why anyone supposes that they have remedied that in the interim is an interesting question to ponder.
3. Related to point 1, they have lost the element of surprise.
But
I think that the Wagner / Belarus / Poland / Suwalki Gap notion is a bit of maskirovka, just as the Amphibious Group off of the coast of Kuwait was in 1991.
1. The time to make a quick strike across that corridor to Kaliningrad/Königsberg.is when NATO is sitting back on its heels, being complacent..not when NATO is alret and already deploying troops and aircraft into the region.
2. The Russians showed a non-trivial lack of talent for supporting a quick strike move across slow go terrain (which is that whole region) in February of 2022. Why anyone supposes that they have remedied that in the interim is an interesting question to ponder.
3. Related to point 1, they have lost the element of surprise.
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