Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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Rostec, Russian state-owned defense conglomerate headquartered in Moscow has banned the use of Apple iPhones, devices, and computers for all of its 450,000 employees for security reasons.
The state military-industrial behemoth has about 800 enterprises under the umbrella.
The state military-industrial behemoth has about 800 enterprises under the umbrella.
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"How soon after the war would you like Ukraine to become a member of NATO?", a journalist asked President Biden at a meeting with Zelensky.
"One hour and 20 minutes", the US president replied….
"One hour and 20 minutes", the US president replied….
Not sure why Zelensky needs to be overly polite.
He knows the clock is ticking with its major supporter the US.
Biden is getting more confused by the day and the thought of him running again is ludicrous and just as ludicrous is that he is the best the Democrats can field. (So who is really running the show in the background)?
The Ukrainians are worried that the Orange Blowhard may get back in and as he put it, will sort out the problem in Ukraine in a day.
Wallace is miffed that the US won't give him the NATO job and so is playing up to the US.
As for the Ukrainians, they know that without a breakthrough they could be fighting in a third winter with the US election looming.
They know they can't just do a Blitzkrieg Banzai charge at the Russian lines in one area as the losses will be too great at home and in the international media.
The only hope they now have is to pull the Russian reserves and attention hither and thither, taking out troop concentrations, command and transport nodes.
They are painfully aware that the UK and others have so badly invested in their defence that we are running out of supplies.
The only upside is the Russians are infighting and that they did such a stupid assault on Kiev in the first weeks, that they lost a great deal of their trained troops and equipment.
The Ukrainians don't have time on their side.
He knows the clock is ticking with its major supporter the US.
Biden is getting more confused by the day and the thought of him running again is ludicrous and just as ludicrous is that he is the best the Democrats can field. (So who is really running the show in the background)?
The Ukrainians are worried that the Orange Blowhard may get back in and as he put it, will sort out the problem in Ukraine in a day.
Wallace is miffed that the US won't give him the NATO job and so is playing up to the US.
As for the Ukrainians, they know that without a breakthrough they could be fighting in a third winter with the US election looming.
They know they can't just do a Blitzkrieg Banzai charge at the Russian lines in one area as the losses will be too great at home and in the international media.
The only hope they now have is to pull the Russian reserves and attention hither and thither, taking out troop concentrations, command and transport nodes.
They are painfully aware that the UK and others have so badly invested in their defence that we are running out of supplies.
The only upside is the Russians are infighting and that they did such a stupid assault on Kiev in the first weeks, that they lost a great deal of their trained troops and equipment.
The Ukrainians don't have time on their side.
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Fascinating geopolitical analysis from Russian propagandists: China exists only due to Russia and Russia is China's largest and post powerful guard from all dangers.
Even Skabeyeva is skeptical.
Fascinating geopolitical analysis from Russian propagandists: China exists only due to Russia and Russia is China's largest and post powerful guard from all dangers.
Even Skabeyeva is skeptical.
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As a note, the first batch of Abrams has already arrived in Poland…
Witold Waszczykowski, Poland’s Foreign Minister between 2015-2018, has stated that Poland should send all its Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine as Germany is too unreliable when it comes to providing spare parts and repairs for the tanks.
Poland has 236 Leopard tanks left.
Poland wouldn’t be able to send all the tanks immediately, but will have to wait for the delivery of 366 Abrams tanks from the U.S. and 180 K2 tanks from South Korea….
Poland could be able to send more Leopard tanks to Ukraine in batches as the American and South Korean tanks start arriving in Poland in large numbers.
Polish military experts have stated that Poland long-term goal is to get rid of the Leos in order to operate just 2 MBTs.
Witold Waszczykowski, Poland’s Foreign Minister between 2015-2018, has stated that Poland should send all its Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine as Germany is too unreliable when it comes to providing spare parts and repairs for the tanks.
Poland has 236 Leopard tanks left.
Poland wouldn’t be able to send all the tanks immediately, but will have to wait for the delivery of 366 Abrams tanks from the U.S. and 180 K2 tanks from South Korea….
Poland could be able to send more Leopard tanks to Ukraine in batches as the American and South Korean tanks start arriving in Poland in large numbers.
Polish military experts have stated that Poland long-term goal is to get rid of the Leos in order to operate just 2 MBTs.
Ukrainian Leopard 2a6 survives 2 ATGM hits before deploying smoke cover. Zaporozhye direction, July 2023
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3
Interview (in German) with the crew after showing damage to the tank.
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...der-Front.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3
Interview (in German) with the crew after showing damage to the tank.
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/...der-Front.html
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State of the Russian army.
The Russian Ministry of Defense has sent a weapons batch to mobilized in the Luhansk region. Weapons such as PPS submachine guns, PPSh-41, SKS Karabin and other pre-WW2 weaponry can be seen
The Russian Ministry of Defense has sent a weapons batch to mobilized in the Luhansk region. Weapons such as PPS submachine guns, PPSh-41, SKS Karabin and other pre-WW2 weaponry can be seen
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Ukraine has already received cluster munitions from the USA.
The commander of the Tavria direction:
"We just got them, haven't used them yet, but they can make a big difference on the battlefield."
The commander of the Tavria direction:
"We just got them, haven't used them yet, but they can make a big difference on the battlefield."
It would make quite a difference as this would be an attack on common NATO territory, triggering a common response. Exactly this is how current diplomatic warnings concerning possible attacks on the Baltic States have been worded.
(On the other hand, their taking in of Ukrainian refugees earns a "well done!").
Ben Wallace being remarkably undiplomatic….
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-not-an...llace-12919765
UK not an Amazon delivery service for weapons to Ukraine, says defence secretary Ben Wallace
The minister said "whether we like it or not people want to see gratitude" for weapons sent to Ukraine, adding that Kyiv needs to "persuade doubting politicians in other countries that you know that it's worth it".
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-not-an...llace-12919765
UK not an Amazon delivery service for weapons to Ukraine, says defence secretary Ben Wallace
The minister said "whether we like it or not people want to see gratitude" for weapons sent to Ukraine, adding that Kyiv needs to "persuade doubting politicians in other countries that you know that it's worth it".
I guess that old general didn't just fade away ... (obscure reference to remarks by General Douglas MacArthur).
How typical of Germany, to find yet another excuse not to help. That's been their pattern for about a year and a half.
Not surprisingly Ukraine's president hit the roof, saying it was "absurd" for Nato leaders not to give even so much as a timetable. The conditions, he said, were "vague".
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"We reiterated that Ukraine will become a member of NATO and agreed to cancel the requirements for an action plan for membership in the alliance. This will change the path for Ukraine to join NATO, instead of a two-stage process, it will be a one-stage process," Stoltenberg said at a press conference in Vilnius.
According to Stoltenberg, the NATO summit also agreed on the establishment of a Ukraine-NATO council, as well as a multi-year support program aimed at bringing the Ukrainian Armed Forces up to NATO standards.
According to Stoltenberg, the NATO summit also agreed on the establishment of a Ukraine-NATO council, as well as a multi-year support program aimed at bringing the Ukrainian Armed Forces up to NATO standards.
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Because the Germans got a better burdened hour labor rate, or because the Germans still see the Poles as Untermensch?
(I am a bit ranty this morning. I've a few friends who are Polish emigres to the US who have a sharp distaste for how Germany treats the Eastern European countries smaller than themselves ...)
The Poles moving their Leopards to Ukraine to make way for Abrams looks like it won't be blocked by the Germans though, right?
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The Poles moving their Leopards to Ukraine to make way for Abrams looks like it won't be blocked by the Germans though, right?
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Why flat plains are tank country and why air cover is essential.
Intense footage of Ukrainian infantry attempting to advance from the settlement of Pyatykhatky towards Zherebyanky on the Zaporizhzhia front, and being pinned down by enemy fire.
The shells are constantly landing around them and Russian aircraft can be heard overhead.
Intense footage of Ukrainian infantry attempting to advance from the settlement of Pyatykhatky towards Zherebyanky on the Zaporizhzhia front, and being pinned down by enemy fire.
The shells are constantly landing around them and Russian aircraft can be heard overhead.
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How typical of Germany, to find yet another excuse not to help. That's been their pattern for about a year and a half.
(On the other hand, their taking in of Ukrainian refugees earns a "well done!").
I see no problem with Ben voicing that concern. The political bit is very important if you rely on other nations for your security, and as we see from the Poland/Germany above, it doesn't take much for it to go a little pear shaped. Winning the information war/salesmanship war, is a key to Zelensky's success, so far. No time to rest on one's laurels.
I guess that old general didn't just fade away ... (obscure reference to remarks by General Douglas MacArthur).
(On the other hand, their taking in of Ukrainian refugees earns a "well done!").
I see no problem with Ben voicing that concern. The political bit is very important if you rely on other nations for your security, and as we see from the Poland/Germany above, it doesn't take much for it to go a little pear shaped. Winning the information war/salesmanship war, is a key to Zelensky's success, so far. No time to rest on one's laurels.
I guess that old general didn't just fade away ... (obscure reference to remarks by General Douglas MacArthur).
Meanwhile, mostly, we use diplomacy and all other forms of power, including sabre rattling, to gain or keep the peace.
It’s hard to grasp just how much pressure he is under. Courageous UKR lives lost everyday, time running out, the very existence of his country at stake. His use of “rhetoric” and every hard decision he must make is for the sake restoring sovereign peace to the entire country. It may hurt our feelings, but I’m afraid the words “not enough” were the truth. As much as the west has provided, while it is not enough, it has helped to lengthen the conflict. We are probably 18 months late in providing the means to establish air support over the UKR ground forces. Needless time and loss of life is the result.
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