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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 06:50
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You couldn’t make this up..

Meanwhile, the Katsapas want to spend the last summer on the territory of the so-called Crimea, the traffic jam at the entrance to Crimea is more than 9 km. in the morning it was about 5 km away. At the entrance to the Kerch bridge, the traffic jam from the Russian side continues to grow, it has already reached 9 km. The reason was the careful maintenance of cars. Evidently, saboteurs are expected in Crimea, who are supposed to come from the Russian side. And who is the most dangerous saboteur in Russia now? - that's right, rebels of the "Wagner" PVC. Perhaps some attentive people passed on the information to the FSB that the "Wagners" are preparing to bring explosives and ammunition to Crimea, because the agreements on the part of the Kremlin have not been fulfilled in full.
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Party time Yup it’s genuine.



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Been drinking Moscow tea?

​​​​​​​There is information circulating among local residents that Kadyrov's problems with his liver and kidneys have worsened and he is in an extremely serious condition. Kadyrov's son posted a message in which he wants the Almighty to "keep his father" - Russian media
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News of a different kind from Ukraine

And with aviation content too ;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65955365
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Defense Express has published the following article:

"The scenario of undermining the cooling system of the ZNPP: about a global catastrophe without unnecessary guesswork"

If ZNPP is detonated by Russia🧵

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Ukrainian and Slovak arms factories agreed on the creation of a new 155-mm self-propelled gun.

The main goal of cooperation is to adapt the Slovak self-propelled howitzer "Eva" to Ukrainian requirements and integrate technical solutions from Ukrainian partners

From Ukraine, the Kramatorsk heavy machine tool construction plant participates in this integration, and from Slovakia, the state company "Konstrukta Defense" will participate.



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Originally Posted by ORAC
Defense Express has published the following article:

"The scenario of undermining the cooling system of the ZNPP: about a global catastrophe without unnecessary guesswork"

If ZNPP is detonated by Russia🧵

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...454851587.html
Interesting thread. As dark as that outcome is, it is more optimistic than my opinion. Passing through an explosive mixture of hydrogen is probable with any case that the hydrogen dissipation system is not effective. The scenario envisages all containment failing in short order and corium being released to the ground levels, and not penetrating the cement base levels. Perhaps; in the Chernobyl case, the containment was luckily achieved, with the corium remaining clear of the ground water. That would be a wildly best case. For the cooling pools going dry, what retention remains to avoid molten fuel rods contacting ground water is not apparent. Such a benign outcome would be a blessing if the criminals do conduct a terrorist action.

Someone with an abacus might want to chat with the great strategist about what the penalty that the rest of the world will extract from Russia to compensate Ukraine for the damage that they deliberately undertake as a war crime, as it is most certainly a war crime. Even with a benign outcome, Ukraine will have a chance to bill Russia for generations for their acts of infamy. The losses are becoming quite impressive, and there doesn't seem to be an outcome that it doesn't blow back on Russian citizens to pay for all of the entertainment they have had with breakages. Russia isn't going to get xmas cards any time soon from Ukraine or much of the rest of the world. Seems a waste of 1/4 million Russian lives so far, to make Putin look more incompetent than ever. Add 20-30 years worth of sanctions, and the destruction of the federation, and the growing likelihood of China taking a bite out of the rump of primorskan Russia, the former Chinese territory that imperial Russia grabbed from China... time for that abacus.

The discussion on reduced H2 production suggests that the model applied in the analysis assumes no damage occurring to the reactor containment vessel, around the primary water loop, and that the core capture system actually able to function as designed which seems improbable, the failure is not a benign "gone dark" failure, it is an multiple demolition charge scenario, that is as likely to damage the reactor vessel and the crucible and tertiary cooling circuits as not, and that voids all of the benign failure assumptions. Yes, the VVER-1000 V320 is safer than the RBMK design, but while it is water moderated and has an inherent negative void coefficient which is more stable than the RBMKs PVC/graphite moderated disaster design... it is still not designed to be detonated by some homicidal clowns. The IVMR system will likely fail from blast damage, and the EVMR/core catcher is even more prone to terrorist damage. Relying on any of the safety systems to avoid radionuclide release is pretty hopeful, and and is a lousy plan.

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So what will our reaction be if Putin orders the destruction of the ZNPP?
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Well, he might have to go sit on the naughty step, as to the wests reaction, I seem to remember it had previously been mentioned that it would be counted the same as nuclear weapon being used, and that could open up a can of worms..
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Rather depends on the result I would have thought,
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A bit off-thread, but has anyone found a work-round for the Twitter problem? I'm not a member of Twitter but have found the threads on here very useful and helpful these last 18 months. Seems a shame not being able to access them.
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Sonntag, 02.07.2023, 18:35

Massive explosion reported on Primorsko-Achtarsk airbase close to Krasnodar, Russia on the Sea of Azov. Crater is approximately 10m x 4 m (actually looks a lot bigger to me ) What amount of explosive would be required to make a hole that size ?

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._57275780.html

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A bit off-thread, but has anyone found a work-round for the Twitter problem? I'm not a member of Twitter but have found the threads on here very useful and helpful these last 18 months. Seems a shame not being able to access them.
I can quote posts and post pictures from it but video appears a No no…. Various things I have read is they are hemorrhaging users and revenue… one even suggested the cuts maybe due to not being able to afford the servers they were using, hence the restrictions.

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Sonntag, 02.07.2023, 18:35

Massive explosion reported on Primorsko-Achtarsk airbase close to Krasnodar, Russia on the Sea of Azov. Crater is approximately 10m x 4 m (actually looks a lot bigger to me ) What amount of explosive would be required to make a hole that size ?

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._57275780.html
I know a thing or two about militaring mining and explosions.

The variables are::

the "explosve"
nature of ground and subsoil
depth of charge epicentre.

From the illustration, superficially similar to a medium size mine crater on Western Front 1916-1918.

Thought: Geiger counter, anyybody?
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
I know a thing or two about militaring mining and explosions.

The variables are::

the "explosve"
nature of ground and subsoil
depth of charge epicentre.

From the illustration, superficially similar to a medium size mine crater on Western Front 1916-1918.

Thought: Geiger counter, anyybody?
However, there is no lip to the crater, so where has the material from the hole disappeared too? Quatermass?
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I can quote posts and post pictures from it but video appears a No no…. Various things I have read is they are hemorrhaging users and revenue… one even suggested the cuts maybe due to not being able to afford the servers they were using, hence the restrictions.
Posts and pictures are great, Nutty - in fact I would prefer that to going to Tw*tter anyway, if you can keep it up
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Take the norm of 1 KIA for every 3 WIA and reverse them…

Russian front-line hospitals are experiencing acute shortages of personnel and supplies. Only officers are reportedly evacuated to Russia, with ordinary soldiers being treated without anaesthesia or medications. Volunteers are providing most of the medical supplies. ⬇️

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A bit embarrassing if you are one of the troops on the front line when rations (however bad) stop arriving. No doubt to restart in a few months.

Stiil, it’s summer, they can stop fighting and live off the land…

Yevgeny Prigozhin's business empire is rapidly being dismantled. It's lost its contract to provide (rotten, infected, adulterated) food to the Russian army, and his media empire is shutting down. Thousands of his staff have been made redundant, many with no severance pay. ⬇️……

It's unclear what impact Concord's demise will have on military food logistics in occupied Ukraine. The situation is already reportedly very bad, with frontline troops complaining they lack food and water. It's unlikely that Concord's services can be replaced immediately.…

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Pro-Russian sources confirm that all attempts to dislodge the Ukrainian troops from the Antonovsky bridgehead failed.

They also admit that the situation is becoming a serious concern.

#Ukraine #Kherson #Counteroffensive


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From Al Jazeera.

Ukraine says Russian troops advancing in ‘fierce fighting’Russian troops are advancing in four areas of the front line in eastern Ukraine amid “fierce fighting”, Ukraine’s Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Maliar has said.

“The enemy is advancing in Avdiivka, Mariinka, Lyman sectors. The enemy is also moving forward in the Svatove sector,” she said.
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