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Old 16th Apr 2023, 10:08
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The policy is, if found guilty the presumption will be that you are discharged. You aren't thrown out just because of an accusation. The policy is readily available for all those it affects to read and is quite clear IMO.
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Old 16th Apr 2023, 10:41
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
I think the poster was describing what the mood is - not the actual policy or law

TBH that's pretty much how it works in civi street these days - with kids, women, disabled, race - you have to be be very, very careful - which isn't necessarily a bad thing
That is manifestly NOT how it works in “civi street!”

The burden of proof is very high in such cases and there is still a much higher percentage chance of the charges being dropped with no action taken rather than a successful prosecution.
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Old 16th Apr 2023, 11:01
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
That is manifestly NOT how it works in “civi street!”

The burden of proof is very high in such cases and there is still a much higher percentage chance of the charges being dropped with no action taken rather than a successful prosecution.
Yes I believe you are correct ...... do you have stats that show who/ how/ why charges / cases are dropped please?
I have a nasty suspicion that the victims [or alleged victims in law] all too often play a part in the failed cases.
I am emphatically not victim blaming, but my Met Police daughter and her detective husband grew despondent about the number of cases which were withdrawn, and not by CPS. All praise to those who press the charges, especially in domestic violence cases, where it must be a terrible dilemma.
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Old 16th Apr 2023, 16:53
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I was thinking more of the court of public opinion

the head of the CBI got his head in his hands this week and there was no mention of any legal proceedings.
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Old 16th Apr 2023, 22:45
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
That is manifestly NOT how it works in “civi street!”

The burden of proof is very high in such cases and there is still a much higher percentage chance of the charges being dropped with no action taken rather than a successful prosecution.
As many cases are down to she said/he said and the difficulty in defining the 'truth'.
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Old 17th Apr 2023, 08:08
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By the time it ends up in court you're toast these days - accused, tried, convicted and punished by the media and social media
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