Chinese Tracking Devices in Commercial Products
What? You mean there is a suggestion that Sinoduplicity is real and living amongst us? How can that be?
Our friends in the meejah seemed to be doing a pretty good job for them.
(sits back and awaits some aggressive knocking on the door at 3am)
Our friends in the meejah seemed to be doing a pretty good job for them.
(sits back and awaits some aggressive knocking on the door at 3am)
Depending on your PoV, it may please you to know that the Americans - well, one company at least - have been doing this to the Chinese, and the rest of the world, for years:
...I'm beginning to think this thread is better suited to JB than here, though
...I'm beginning to think this thread is better suited to JB than here, though
Traffic monitoring may use data transmitted from cars but my understanding was that the likes of google maps used data from phones as it is likely to more freely available to them due to the high percentage of people with either their browser or mapping software being installed on phones.
In the console in the roof of my car, there is a BIG RED button. I had hoped that this was for the passenger seat ejector seat, but alas it was just the emergency communication button that connects to the emergency services.
There is grey one beside it that connects to the manufactures technical help line. I have had to use it on one occasion and with my permission, they were able to connect to the vehicle, read the data and send me on my way as it was non critical problem, sensor, that could be sorted when it went into the garage.
There is grey one beside it that connects to the manufactures technical help line. I have had to use it on one occasion and with my permission, they were able to connect to the vehicle, read the data and send me on my way as it was non critical problem, sensor, that could be sorted when it went into the garage.
My six year old Volvo books servicing with the main dealer, when low on fuel which garages are open and location, traffic jams etc. My iPhone even tells me the cars location. Hi everybody and a special Nǐ hǎo nǐ hǎo ma to my new Chinese friends!
By definition, any vehicle that has an SOS function has the ability to determine where it is (GPS and/or Cell network) and transmit that information to an external source. My 2019 BMW has the function - and as others have note, while it started on the higher end vehicles - it's moved on down to nearly all new cars.
I recently started getting an error message on my BMW that the SOS function wasn't functioning properly and I needed to get it serviced. I tried several things to clear the message (without success) (while I suppose the SOS function is a good feature, my primary concern was that the message took the place of my odometer - and I found that extremely annoying). I was about to try doing a 'hard boot' by disconnection/reconnecting the battery, it mysteriously cured itself...
I recently started getting an error message on my BMW that the SOS function wasn't functioning properly and I needed to get it serviced. I tried several things to clear the message (without success) (while I suppose the SOS function is a good feature, my primary concern was that the message took the place of my odometer - and I found that extremely annoying). I was about to try doing a 'hard boot' by disconnection/reconnecting the battery, it mysteriously cured itself...
Chances are, there is no knowledge of where the ECUs (and that's not just engines, but lots of other things have an 'ECU' in a car) are going to end up. I suspect there are sections of some Chinese companies not known to the rest of the departments whose sole responsibility is to engineer in backdoors, phone home tech, data gathering and so on.
Here is an example:
https://spectrum.ieee.org/this-tech-...hip-in-seconds
Thus, I suspect that there is wholesale engineering of backdoors and data gathering in some electronics produced in main land China.
There's plenty of it elsewhere too as you've all discussed - one of the reasons connected devices (such as TVs) are not more expensive is that there is mass data collection systems. With TVs, they phone home what you're watching. Data is sold for profit from all of us - your habits, likes, dislikes, how much TV you consume, when, and what.
https://www.consumerreports.org/priv...s-a4840102036/
It can be very difficult to actually cut a smart device off from the internet - some are very tenacious and will connect to any available network - any.
Added to that are the man-in-the-middle interceptions as documented by Snowden leaks - it won't just be happening in the US.
Here is an example:
https://spectrum.ieee.org/this-tech-...hip-in-seconds
Thus, I suspect that there is wholesale engineering of backdoors and data gathering in some electronics produced in main land China.
There's plenty of it elsewhere too as you've all discussed - one of the reasons connected devices (such as TVs) are not more expensive is that there is mass data collection systems. With TVs, they phone home what you're watching. Data is sold for profit from all of us - your habits, likes, dislikes, how much TV you consume, when, and what.
https://www.consumerreports.org/priv...s-a4840102036/
It can be very difficult to actually cut a smart device off from the internet - some are very tenacious and will connect to any available network - any.
Added to that are the man-in-the-middle interceptions as documented by Snowden leaks - it won't just be happening in the US.
A case in point about the value of data collection is to compare the cost of a monitor with a smart TV. I have no use for a smart TV, ours is only used as an HDMI monitor fed from either a home made Kodi box (a Raspberry Pi) or a Freesat box. Smart TVs are a LOT cheaper than monitors of the same size. Some of that may be demand, but much is because of the value of the data they collect and sell on viewing habits.
I currently have a smart TV in bits (was given it) and am part way through getting the screen part coupled to an HDMI driver board to turn it into a dumb monitor. All told a lot of faff, but I'm always up for a challenge.
I currently have a smart TV in bits (was given it) and am part way through getting the screen part coupled to an HDMI driver board to turn it into a dumb monitor. All told a lot of faff, but I'm always up for a challenge.
A case in point about the value of data collection is to compare the cost of a monitor with a smart TV. I have no use for a smart TV, ours is only used as an HDMI monitor fed from either a home made Kodi box (a Raspberry Pi) or a Freesat box. Smart TVs are a LOT cheaper than monitors of the same size. Some of that may be demand, but much is because of the value of the data they collect and sell on viewing habits.
I currently have a smart TV in bits (was given it) and am part way through getting the screen part coupled to an HDMI driver board to turn it into a dumb monitor. All told a lot of faff, but I'm always up for a challenge.
I currently have a smart TV in bits (was given it) and am part way through getting the screen part coupled to an HDMI driver board to turn it into a dumb monitor. All told a lot of faff, but I'm always up for a challenge.
If it was me, I would content myself with having tracked the Ministers personal phone. You know, the one he uses for his other job, texting his girlfriend, and watching porn in the house.
Much simpler, and works when he isn’t in the vehicle.
Much simpler, and works when he isn’t in the vehicle.
"I suspect that there is wholesale engineering of backdoors and data gathering in some electronics produced in main land China."
I doubt its just the Chinese who are doing this.............. the Israelis have form and the Saudis have hacked phones on an industrial scale
And if you think the NSA , GCHQ etc are far behind......................
I doubt its just the Chinese who are doing this.............. the Israelis have form and the Saudis have hacked phones on an industrial scale
And if you think the NSA , GCHQ etc are far behind......................
Thanks for that. I think that's probably going a bit too far in terms of requirements creep, though!
I'm sticking with just replacing the smart LCD driver board with a dumb one, so the TV turns into a normal dumb HDMI monitor.
I'm sticking with just replacing the smart LCD driver board with a dumb one, so the TV turns into a normal dumb HDMI monitor.
