Russia’s SU75 / 57 and it’s woes
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Russia’s SU75 / 57 and it’s woes
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SU-57 “stealth” fighter wing with semi-recessed roofing screws.
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This, it’s an improvement on the wing fixings on an SU-30 built as recently as 2018…
Excellent panel shut lines on both aircraft…
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This, it’s an improvement on the wing fixings on an SU-30 built as recently as 2018…
Excellent panel shut lines on both aircraft…
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There is nothing like craftsmanship when it comes to building aircraft!
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Is this the new aircraft that our Russian chums informed us is more advanced than the Stealth Fighter, the design of which essentially started nearly 50 years ago?
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I walked amongst scattered parts of the still smoking wreckage of one of the MIG 29s involved in the mid air at IAT Fairford in 1993. For what was then a world beating design, I wasn’t very impressed by the workmanship.
(Or the flying
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Based on the above, read and discuss….
What the Su-57 fighter can do and its destruction can tell us about the general state of the Russian army.
Like the T-14 tank, the Armata is simply a PR project of the Russian army, the purpose of which is not to build a fifth-generation aircraft, which it never was, but to get the state budget and steal the money.
In fact, the Su-57 is not a new platform, but a regular Su-35 with a modified appearance and some new systems……
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What the Su-57 fighter can do and its destruction can tell us about the general state of the Russian army.
Like the T-14 tank, the Armata is simply a PR project of the Russian army, the purpose of which is not to build a fifth-generation aircraft, which it never was, but to get the state budget and steal the money.
In fact, the Su-57 is not a new platform, but a regular Su-35 with a modified appearance and some new systems……
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...320855272.html
Who can remember Anatoly Kvochur (sadly just found out of his death in April Famous Test Pilot Anatoly Nikolaevich Kvochur – 1952-2024 (key.aero)) one Biggin Hill air display in the 90's who climbed into his Mig29 (or was it an SU27?). Flew to Moscow for the funeral of his Commanding Officer. Flew back and did his display routine. Now Russia is the social pariah, evil, the enemy? What the hell went wrong?
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Who can remember Anatoly Kvochur (sadly just found out of his death in April Famous Test Pilot Anatoly Nikolaevich Kvochur – 1952-2024 (key.aero))
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He was actually Ukrainian by birth. I wonder what he thought of Putin and his pals?
I recall his Su-27 display at Biggin Hill...
I recall his Su-27 display at Biggin Hill...
Just my $0.02 - what went wrong was a failure to understand the Russian mentality and their inherent fear of western encroachment. Everything was peaches and cream in 1991, just 8 years later NATO was bombing a major city in a former Soviet republic, namely Belgrade. This was pivotal in the rise of the hardliners. 95% of people in the West wouldn’t know what you were talking about if you asked them about the bombing of Belgrade, but the average Russian would.
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Just my $0.02 - what went wrong was a failure to understand the Russian mentality and their inherent fear of western encroachment. Everything was peaches and cream in 1991, just 8 years later NATO was bombing a major city in a former Soviet republic, namely Belgrade. This was pivotal in the rise of the hardliners. 95% of people in the West wouldn’t know what you were talking about if you asked them about the bombing of Belgrade, but the average Russian would.
And the russian nukes are that are close to warsaw and berlin. But hey its western defensive alliance threatening poor little russia
God you dumb
Tito was very independent in his approach to Communism in Yugoslavia, of which Serbia was a component part.
This was pivotal in the rise of the hardliners. 95% of people in the West wouldn’t know what you were talking about if you asked them about the bombing of Belgrade, but the average Russian would.