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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

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Old 21st Dec 2022, 17:36
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Originally Posted by welshwaffu
Blimey, with friends like Pootin, who needs enemies?
Sounds like he's admitting that the RF is in fact a protection racket.
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 18:01
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Russian war propaganda, send your grandson to war and you'll get sausage (apparently the grandson is returning home as minced meat). As a binus you'll get to keep your Lada. Oh joy!

And these folks are saying the west is on the verge of beginning to use rationing coupons.


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Old 21st Dec 2022, 18:14
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Originally Posted by MPN11
Well, it won't be. But perhaps an indicator of why DE is reluctant to give UKR much in the way of hardware, when their own materiel seems a little 'deficient'.
I really don't believe the decision makers - Scholz and Lambrecht, both SPD - will have ever taken the slightest notice of such plebeian matters as performance, availability of weapons systems. Their decisions are purely political and thus not tainted by such foolishness.
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 18:24
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I am normally an easy going person but I do hope the death penalty will be brought back if they do not have it and some of these bastards will be found and they will be lined up against a wall and shot. I would bring in mandatory dna testing for any Russians travelling abroad.

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I read a number of posts but saw nothing that explained the references to Amnesty. Can anyone enlighten me/give a link ?
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 18:32
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Russian war propaganda, send your grandson to war and you'll get sausage (apparently the grandson is returning home as minced meat). As a binus you'll get to keep your Lada. Oh joy!

And these folks are saying the west is on the verge of beginning to use rationing coupons.

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...41562036457472
That is truly amazing - it really seems back on the levels of something you might expect in the 40's or 50's. In a backhand way it makes it clear to me - in a way that wasn't there before - that the people directing the war from the NATO side really do need to understand that they/we aren't fighting people like us and need to prosecute the war in a different way than what will have been taught in Western war academies.
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 18:37
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
I read a number of posts but saw nothing that explained the references to Amnesty. Can anyone enlighten me/give a link ?
it's a reference to an amnesty report in August where they stated that "“Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians.”
by placing military installments close to civilian infrastructure and that Ukrainian military should somehow protect populated areas from afar.

the entire report was fuel for Russian propaganda.
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 18:55
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More war propaganda, go to war and you'll shake the debt collecting goons. And a nagging wife.
Interesting part is that this video really shows them as mafia stereotypes in black leather jackets and threatening to break his arm. Not your regular bank officials... Is Russian Federation paying gaming debts as well? Go and die for motherland and your bookie gets paid. Your mom gets a soft(ish) towel for her loss.


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Old 21st Dec 2022, 19:08
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Apparently a red on red incident. How sad. Especially as that is very identifiable and Ukraine doesn't have any. Apparently pilots made it though, but ejection seats weren't used. Or... they tried to but the seats were U/S, as has been reported earlier in some instances.


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Old 21st Dec 2022, 21:02
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In view of the current tensions with Moldovda, what prevemts them from inviting a NATO force to sit on their border ? Acceptance of this is, is not guaranteed , of course.
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 21:42
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Originally Posted by Beamr
it's a reference to an amnesty report in August where they stated that "“Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians.”
by placing military installments close to civilian infrastructure and that Ukrainian military should somehow protect populated areas from afar.

the entire report was fuel for Russian propaganda.
While it was indeed used for propaganda purposes by the Russians, I don't recall any criticisms that it was factually incorrect.
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 22:25
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 22:39
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"Internal footage of a Russian Pantsir-S1 AD system attempting to engage incoming Ukrainian GMLRS rockets."

Comments in the threat explain what's going on.

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Old 21st Dec 2022, 22:55
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Fascinating Russian soldiers view of how the war is going and their capabilities.

https://wartranslated.com/russian-vo...ter-offensive/
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 22:57
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Russia is planning on building six army aviation brigades, and 3 more bomber rgts next year... with what?



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Old 21st Dec 2022, 23:08
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Russia is planning on building six army aviation brigades, and 3 more bomber rgts next year... with what?

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The takes outs for me, unlimited budget from the army, specifically “the country and the government are providing everything that the army asks for”
Secondly going from 700 000 proffessional soldiers to 1.5 million
and the thing that nobody seems to understand why. conscription going from 18-27 to 21 - 30. Maybe the large number that fled might be an acutal issue

Then there minor stuff like 2 extra VDV divisions, 3 new divisions of occupied territiories, plus about a 12 brigades (mostly coastal defence)are being upgraded to divisions
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 23:44
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Apparently a red on red incident. How sad. Especially as that is very identifiable and Ukraine doesn't have any. Apparently pilots made it though, but ejection seats weren't used. Or... they tried to but the seats were U/S, as has been reported earlier in some instances.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status...31564589682688
If it still has it's rotors doesn't that mean an ejection wasn't attempted? I thought the blades blow off then you bang out?
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Old 22nd Dec 2022, 00:50
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Fascinating Russian soldiers view of how the war is going and their capabilities.



https://wartranslated.com/russian-vo...ter-offensive/
Seems like an accurate summary of current Russian military capability and intent
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Old 22nd Dec 2022, 01:11
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Originally Posted by Beamr
More war propaganda, go to war and you'll shake the debt collecting goons. And a nagging wife.
Interesting part is that this video really shows them as mafia stereotypes in black leather jackets and threatening to break his arm. Not your regular bank officials... Is Russian Federation paying gaming debts as well? Go and die for motherland and your bookie gets paid. Your mom gets a soft(ish) towel for her loss.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...75428243099648
Excerpt they don't pay the debt, they only provide a debt 'holiday'. After (if) you get back you still owe the money. What a bizarre piece of propaganda.
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Old 22nd Dec 2022, 03:11
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Originally Posted by uxb99
If it still has it's rotors doesn't that mean an ejection wasn't attempted? I thought the blades blow off then you bang out?
unless the sequence for ejection malfunctioned. Then the blades wouldn't blow away either.
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Old 22nd Dec 2022, 07:57
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
Excerpt they don't pay the debt, they only provide a debt 'holiday'. After (if) you get back you still owe the money. What a bizarre piece of propaganda.

Yes, but you might come back with enough washing machines, refrigerators, TVs or whatever to sell and settle the debt.

If you come back at all.
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