Is Ukraine about to have a war?
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More high quality footage of the Bridge in Kherson
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It seems the temporary Russian Kherson region that they still retain is now leaderless.
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Very good read on the cost of the Russian missiles being used and also on how long to restock ( 5 yrs)
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/what_...iles-4709.html
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/how_m...date-4646.html
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/what_...iles-4709.html
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/how_m...date-4646.html
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Well he does not appear to have problems with the russian tank traps.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
It is reported that a refinery plant in Russia, 170 km from the border with Ukraine, was attacked by a drone.
https://meduza.io/news/2022/11/16/gu...bazu-pod-orlom
https://meduza.io/news/2022/11/16/gu...bazu-pod-orlom
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Now take your 'This is War' reflex and eat crow.
Poland Says Missile Was Likely Fired by Ukraine Air Defense (msn.com)
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True.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste" Article 4 allows enhanced security measures to be taken. So now is the time for that aicraft deal to be resurected. US F16s for Polish Migs etc that can now legitimately go to Ukraine, along with any other goodies deemed necessary
Gotta hand it to the Viper team: a design (with upgrades, of course) that has stood the test of time and is beginning to remind me of the C-130 as regards usability and popularity.
@gums, you and the gang done good!
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But hang on: now that Sweden is about to Join NATO, maybe the Grippen would be an option?
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A Rome plow blade will be quite handy on the front of a tank taking them on.
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NATO also note that irrespective of who fired it, the missile is related to aggression in contravention of UN resolutions, in self-defense by Ukraine. Much like murder statutes in the USA, where someone gets shot by the police during an action related to dealing with criminal activity. The criminal has a liability for the consequences of their actions.
No further word from Moldova, an errant S-300 fired in self-defense is looking like the case, with Russia still the responsible party.
No further word from Moldova, an errant S-300 fired in self-defense is looking like the case, with Russia still the responsible party.
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Now take your 'This is War' reflex and eat crow.
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Where would you stop? the Kerch bridge? ![Wink](https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/wink2.gif)
BTW let's not forget the two innocent Poles in all of this, just going about their daily lives.
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BTW let's not forget the two innocent Poles in all of this, just going about their daily lives.
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I agree and whilst NATO has sort of said that too we are still awaiting a response and there should be one. Not necessarily a strike but use the opportunity to put more kit - whatever form - into Ukraine and anywhere else that may be useful. What's Putin gonns do?
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What they need is something that can hit the Tu-95/Tu-160 that are launching missiles at them.
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You have yet to demonstrate that.
Yeah, it matters not to them, now, where that came from.
About what he already has done, probably, given the billions in aid and kit already provided to Ukraine.
I saw something in the news about a new aid package being bandied about in Washington to the tune of over 30 billion, will see if anything substantive is in that story.
I am guessing more air defense, and more artillery, and more fundamental stuff like winter clothes and spare parts. And ammo.
This is kind of vague, not sure of the rumors of the 30 billion is a rumor, or if that number came from somewhere credible (Secretary of State, House of Representatives, etc).
Says here that the Swedes are offering some more Air Defense assets.
TW let's not forget the two innocent Poles in all of this, just going about their daily lives.
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I agree and whilst NATO has sort of said that too we are still awaiting a response and there should be one. Not necessarily a strike but use the opportunity to put more kit - whatever form - into Ukraine and anywhere else that may be useful. What's Putin gonna do?
I saw something in the news about a new aid package being bandied about in Washington to the tune of over 30 billion, will see if anything substantive is in that story.
I am guessing more air defense, and more artillery, and more fundamental stuff like winter clothes and spare parts. And ammo.
This is kind of vague, not sure of the rumors of the 30 billion is a rumor, or if that number came from somewhere credible (Secretary of State, House of Representatives, etc).
Says here that the Swedes are offering some more Air Defense assets.
STOCKHOLM, Nov 16 (Reuters) - Sweden will deliver new military aid worth 3 billion crowns ($287 million) to Ukraine, its biggest package of defence material to date which included an air defence system, Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson said.
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